that sounds quite evil

Hey what's the discussion about?

I wouldn't say they're wrong, there's still genuine Christians in Catholicism. Just from my point of view, the theology is flawed and unbiblical

What theology?

Confession, In persona Christi, Eucharist

oh boy it's a Protestant versus Papist discussion
Time to pick a side

I'm neither

Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Ulrich Zwingli...all triple gay

Big funny

Your point of view is absolute insanity then. You could as well say that Christ being God is unbiblical

If you're christian and you're not Roman Catholic or Orthodox Catholic or Assyrian or Oriental you're a Protestant

@Mozalbete ⳩ Why's that?

First, because the apostles are given authority to forgive sins. Second, because the Eucharist isn't some cookie, and many people left Jesus when he told them about it

If the Eucharist has no real presence I find it very odd that early christians accused of being cannibals didn't say 'hey guys it's just a symbol lol'

@Mozalbete ⳩ The Bible instructs for us to confess our sins to *each other*, my issue with Eucharist is the ritual it's become

Ritual is exceedingly important

In the early church, many congregants would confess their sins in front of the church

The levitical priesthood was nothing but ritual

And nowhere did Christ say stop following ritual

The Bible doesn't talk. And also, Christ gives authority to forgive sins

The ritual is the reveration God deservves

Christ alone forgives sins

God alone has the power to give sins but he gave it to the apostles

It's literally in the bible

Through the authority of Christ

Which is why priests act in persona Christi with the authority Christ gave them when he gave them explicitely authority to forgive sins

im over her like wth did i start xD

Yeah, through the authority of Christ, which is passed down from bishop to priest and has been since the beginning

I've got nothing to say about the in persona Christi doctrine which afaik isn't mine

John 20:22-23 AMP

**John 20:22-23 - Amplified Bible (AMP)**

```Dust


<22> And when He said this, He breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. <23> If you forgive the sins of anyone they are forgiven <because of their faith> ; if you retain the sins of anyone, they are retained <and remain unforgiven because of their unbelief>."```

+setversion rsv

John 20:22-23

**John 20:22-23 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)**

```Dust


<22> And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. <23> If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."```

Looks like a phrase was...randomly added in your version?

Expands on the Greek

If you add to or remove from Scripture...

Which is why I use Amplified

Woe unto the translators of that

There are sometimes words that have no direct translations to English