Message from @Z3
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Your point of view is absolute insanity then. You could as well say that Christ being God is unbiblical
If you're christian and you're not Roman Catholic or Orthodox Catholic or Assyrian or Oriental you're a Protestant
@Mozalbete ⳩ Why's that?
First, because the apostles are given authority to forgive sins. Second, because the Eucharist isn't some cookie, and many people left Jesus when he told them about it
If the Eucharist has no real presence I find it very odd that early christians accused of being cannibals didn't say 'hey guys it's just a symbol lol'
@Mozalbete ⳩ The Bible instructs for us to confess our sins to *each other*, my issue with Eucharist is the ritual it's become
Ritual is exceedingly important
In the early church, many congregants would confess their sins in front of the church
The levitical priesthood was nothing but ritual
And nowhere did Christ say stop following ritual
The Bible doesn't talk. And also, Christ gives authority to forgive sins
The ritual is the reveration God deservves
Christ alone forgives sins
God alone has the power to give sins but he gave it to the apostles
It's literally in the bible
Through the authority of Christ
Which is why priests act in persona Christi with the authority Christ gave them when he gave them explicitely authority to forgive sins
im over her like wth did i start xD
Yeah, through the authority of Christ, which is passed down from bishop to priest and has been since the beginning
I've got nothing to say about the in persona Christi doctrine which afaik isn't mine
**John 20:22-23 - Amplified Bible (AMP)**
```Dust
<22> And when He said this, He breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. <23> If you forgive the sins of anyone they are forgiven <because of their faith> ; if you retain the sins of anyone, they are retained <and remain unforgiven because of their unbelief>."```
+setversion rsv
John 20:22-23
**John 20:22-23 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)**
```Dust
<22> And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. <23> If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."```
Looks like a phrase was...randomly added in your version?
Expands on the Greek
If you add to or remove from Scripture...
Which is why I use Amplified
Woe unto the translators of that
There are sometimes words that have no direct translations to English
Thus the amplified goes into more detail
Christ is talking to the apostles
TIL theres different bibles depending on the point u wanna make. i did not know that
Hebrews 7:23–28 AMP
Tells them the sins they forgive are forgiven
Seems pretty straightforward to me
Hebrews 7:23–28
Cmon Biblebot, lmao
Now, even if you add "because of their faith", it would remain that they are given authority to forgive sins