Are you a former protestant?

Are you aware that being a Father of the Church doesn't make what you say authoritative?

So what is authoritative according to the Roman Church ?

Not the scriptures, not the Fathers

So what?

What Christ declared to be Authoritative

Not any "Bible" or "Fathers"

But the Church

Because as you show now, there are heretical Fathers of the Church

It seems you love the words "Fathers"

No.

And hate "of the Church"

You have a list of authoritative Fathers who aren't heretical. @Mozalbete ⳩

So we agree the filioque isn't rooted in the Early Church. It comes exclusively from the Roman Church?

The papal primacy is off topic

The moment you say "Fathers who aren't heretical", you concede that being a Father does not give you authority

The Filioque is true you want it or not

There is no rejection of it

Great debate thanks

High level, it's impressive 😂

You remind me of muslims who talk about how there is no trinity in the early Church

"That's the truth because it's the truth"

I'm amazed

It's the truth because it is declared as such by the Church of Christ

According to the Roman Church only

According to the one with primacy that has the final word

The one with an actual theological tradition

It is funny, though, to see the ones who brag about how much they hate scholastics trying to give theological arguments against masters of theology, with petty arguments that remind of protestants and muslims

Yes the papal primacy is the final resort to everything, even for the primal papacy itself.

The papal primacy is true because the Pope have the primacy @Lao Tseu Takedown. Didn't you know that ?

The papal primacy is true because Christ establishes it

There's no way to debate Roman Church, they have another god: the Pope. No master what the Scripture and the tradition claimed...total waste of time.

Your lack of self awareness is amazing

According yt you, we can't have the pope as the final authority because he is designated by Christ as the rock fo the Church and has always been given primacy

But you can givve authority to a small group of bishops because the small group of bishops says so

And we place the pope as God because we state his authority gven by Christ

No, it's not. But the debate was on filioque.

But you conveniently don't call the councils "god" or those who participate in them

Thanks bro

Since according toy ou the councils are authoritative and declare themselves as such, all who participate in them declare themselves gods and are circular