Message from @Lao Tseu Takedown
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You have no idea of what the purpose of the creed is
Which authoritative source?
The final authority of the roman see
Circular way of thinking....
In the Early Church, where is the authoritative source?
Something coming from the Church fathers is not an authority, since there were heretical Church Fathers
In the Early church, you have either Peter or his successors as final authority
That is, those who have the final word
It seems that you think, as I have mentioned earlies
That there is some magical year from which there are no authoritative statements
Can you tell us exactly what year and why?
Is it the year 300? 400? 401?
So the filioque doesn't come from the scriptures. It doesn't come from the Fathers. So, from where?
Only the Roman Church?
What does it mean that "it comes from the Scriptures"?
are you aware of where the consideration of something as Scripture comes from?
Are you a former protestant?
Are you aware that being a Father of the Church doesn't make what you say authoritative?
So what is authoritative according to the Roman Church ?
Not the scriptures, not the Fathers
What Christ declared to be Authoritative
Not any "Bible" or "Fathers"
But the Church
Because as you show now, there are heretical Fathers of the Church
It seems you love the words "Fathers"
No.
And hate "of the Church"
You have a list of authoritative Fathers who aren't heretical. @Mozalbete ⳩
So we agree the filioque isn't rooted in the Early Church. It comes exclusively from the Roman Church?
The papal primacy is off topic
The moment you say "Fathers who aren't heretical", you concede that being a Father does not give you authority
The Filioque is true you want it or not
There is no rejection of it
Great debate thanks
High level, it's impressive 😂
You remind me of muslims who talk about how there is no trinity in the early Church
"That's the truth because it's the truth"
I'm amazed
It's the truth because it is declared as such by the Church of Christ
According to the Roman Church only