Something coming from the Church fathers is not an authority, since there were heretical Church Fathers

In the Early church, you have either Peter or his successors as final authority

That is, those who have the final word

It seems that you think, as I have mentioned earlies

That there is some magical year from which there are no authoritative statements

Can you tell us exactly what year and why?

Is it the year 300? 400? 401?

So the filioque doesn't come from the scriptures. It doesn't come from the Fathers. So, from where?

Only the Roman Church?

What does it mean that "it comes from the Scriptures"?

are you aware of where the consideration of something as Scripture comes from?

Are you a former protestant?

Are you aware that being a Father of the Church doesn't make what you say authoritative?

So what is authoritative according to the Roman Church ?

Not the scriptures, not the Fathers

So what?

What Christ declared to be Authoritative

Not any "Bible" or "Fathers"

But the Church

Because as you show now, there are heretical Fathers of the Church

It seems you love the words "Fathers"

No.

And hate "of the Church"

You have a list of authoritative Fathers who aren't heretical. @Mozalbete ⳩

So we agree the filioque isn't rooted in the Early Church. It comes exclusively from the Roman Church?

The papal primacy is off topic

The moment you say "Fathers who aren't heretical", you concede that being a Father does not give you authority

The Filioque is true you want it or not

There is no rejection of it

Great debate thanks

High level, it's impressive 😂

You remind me of muslims who talk about how there is no trinity in the early Church

"That's the truth because it's the truth"

I'm amazed

It's the truth because it is declared as such by the Church of Christ

According to the Roman Church only

According to the one with primacy that has the final word

The one with an actual theological tradition

It is funny, though, to see the ones who brag about how much they hate scholastics trying to give theological arguments against masters of theology, with petty arguments that remind of protestants and muslims

Yes the papal primacy is the final resort to everything, even for the primal papacy itself.

The papal primacy is true because the Pope have the primacy @Lao Tseu Takedown. Didn't you know that ?