@Daniil The Catholic Church also authorizes the laymen to baptize.

@Mozalbete ⳩ For the rebaptism of heretics, this is a dogma which last from the IInd Ecumenical Council. Thanks.

Yup. The majority of Orthodox in countries which aren't do chrismation to Trinitarians considering the baptism as valid. But that was also said at the IInd Ecumenical Council. (Canon 7)

_Those who from heresy turn to orthodoxy, and to the portion of those who are being saved, we receive according to the following method and custom: Arians, and Macedonians, and Sabbatians, and Novatians, who call themselves Cathari or Aristori, and Quarto-decimans or Tetradites, and Apollinarians, we receive, upon their giving a written renunciation [of their errors] and anathematize every heresy which is not in accordance with the Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of God. Thereupon, they are first sealed or anointed with the holy oil upon the forehead, eyes, nostrils, mouth, and ears; and when we seal them, we say, "The Seal of the gift of the Holy Ghost."_

There is chrismation 😉

Catholic's mass is also with instruments. While the Orthodox Liturgy is _a capella_.

Because in the Orthodox perspective (and the Fathers), the Liturgy is the reunion of the Church and the Cherubins, who sing the glory of God forever. So the choir intend to copy angels hymns to God.

And so, as the cherubins aren't using organs, the choir isn't.

Sprinkling is ok if the immersion isn't, don't forget that. @Byzas 😉

@󠀂 󠀂 My parents named me like that ^^

Nope. French, but I speak Greek.

Yup

Who is the admin ? @Byzas

Sorry ;)

I know, I'm trolling haha

We are mostly E.P or Bucarest or Moscow

Normally, yup, but Moscow as created his own exarch.

And so the Roumanians.

You know, the Roman Church has been arming people here. So the Frenchs are massively dechristianizing.

100 priests formed each year for 800 leaving, in France.

Well, the Roman Church has been involved in many scandals...

Yeah sorry 😁

The French Roman Primate is in Court for having dissimuled some pedophil priests, for example.

https://international.la-croix.com/news/cardinal-philippe-barbarin-to-stand-trial-in-sex-scandal-cover-up-case/7296

In reality, as a student in linguistics, the germanic languages use the h in replacement of the palatal k.

Well, we haven't declinations like Latin or even Greek.

But the syntax and pronunciation are hard.

Especially the nasalisation of -an/-en

80 is four-twenty

Four hundreds twenty

But it's easy

Quatre-cent-vingt

Four-hundred-twenty

@Byzas Come in vocal in Info Orthodoxe

No

Just saying Romans are heretics

The basics

The Ireland Church was staying in Orthodoxy until the British King received the autorisation of the Pope to invade the island in order to reform that Church.

All of that before becoming Anglican.

British = Perfect guys

@Mozalbete ⳩ So the Arians were using a correct formula ?

So you are mading that of your personal interpretation. The text is saying arians. Are arians trinitarian ? @Mozalbete ⳩

So arians use the correct formula ?

No.

You should have read what I said later.

"Yup. The majority of Orthodox in countries which aren't do chrismation to Trinitarians considering the baptism as valid. But that was also said at the IInd Ecumenical Council. (Canon 7)"

That is what I said, when I was asked why orthodox people don't always rebaptize.

Hi @Lao Tseu Takedown

Isn't any water points or running water available in the Catholic countries like said Fedor ? @Mozalbete ⳩

https://youtu.be/T9DVk81gZVQ

@Deleted User Happy St. John Chrysostom's feast.

🙏

@Quarantine_Zone Didn't Luther tried to remove the James's Epistle of the Bible ?

@Quarantine_Zone No, but I know a little about it.

And all (((Christians))) who are not orthodox taught false doctrine.*

So convert @Βασίλειος Θεοδόσιος

👌 🙏 😍

Saint Paraskevi Church

In greek churches, all the Church's wall are painted with icons. It's really great. @Quarantine_Zone

In the EO Liturgy, there aren't instruments because the Liturgy is the imitation of the hymns prayed by the cherubins to God. And so the choir is singing to imite them and to participate to the louange.

So guitar, orgue, or another instrument are prohibited @Quarantine_Zone

🤔

There is a hudge difference between Orthodox and Romans absolution formulas. @Quarantine_Zone

_May our Lord Jesus Christ absolve you; and by His authority I absolve you from every bond of excommunication (suspension) and interdict, so far as my power allows and your needs require. [making the Sign of the Cross:] Thereupon, __I absolve you__ from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen._

Roman one

The Russian is influenced by Latin ones, but it is better than them.

_My child, N. N., may our Lord and God Christ Jesus by the mercy of His love absolve thee from thy sins; __and I, His unworthy priest, in virtue of the authority committed to me__, absolve thee and declare thee absolved of thy sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Amen._

_The Orthodox Church adheres strictly to the teaching of the Scriptures that only God can forgive sins, that he does so through Christ in the Church, that his conditions are genuine repentance and the promise of change which are witnessed by confession, and that confession, by definition, is the open and public acknowledgment of sin before God and all mankind._

I will find the Greek one tomorrow, because here it's 1.27am, good night and may the Christ be upon you.

This place given to the priest in the Roman Church is a direct consequence of the Council of Trent, where the position of the priest within the Church has really changed.

We could speak of that tomorrow or another day too, if you want @Quarantine_Zone.

But spoiler : their priest isn't a servant, he is a superhero.

@Mozalbete ⳩ Have you ever read the Council of Trent ?

+ I didn't say the thing which you are accusing me so violently.

But I'm confident in the Lord to made you hear right, instead of insulting the Orthodox Church again.

I'm not resenting you, I'll pray for your soul, me, the sinner of the sinners.

$ 2 Timothy 3:12-13

$ 2 Timothy 3:12-13

And for the purgatory, the comparison with Trinity isn't justified, because the Trinity is developped by the Church Fathers, not the Purgatory.

I didn't quote the Council. You are lying.

Everybody can verify it.

Show me where I quoted that Council.

_You have quoted parts of that Council_

Show me those parts, we will see who lies.

So you admit lied or made a mistake. I assume this was a mistake. Now.

That part was quoted from the Orthodox page about the Sacrement of Penance in order to asnwer the question of @Quarantine_Zone wich was :

_What do Orthodox say the purpose of confession is?_

_This place given to the priest in the Roman Church is a direct consequence of the Council of Trent, where the position of the priest within the Church has really changed.

But spoiler : their priest isn't a servant, he is a superhero._

Yes, of course. While that time, you admitted having lie. I haven't nothing against you, but if the truth doesn't interest you, don't take me in that decadence.

And I really think this wasn't a lie but a mistake.

The Russian absolution dogma is pretty similar to the Roman one, this what I said.

Quote me.

_The Russian is influenced by Latin ones, but it is better than them._

I didn't say that neither, quote me.

QUOTE ME.

_You said how catholicism presents the priest as the one who, himself, forgives sins_

I'm waiting to see where I said that.

So here, you read that _the priest in catholicism is the one, who, himself, forgives sins_ ?

We don't read the same thing, obviously.