Message from @MawLr

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2019-04-28 18:28:35 UTC  

I can see why currently

2019-04-28 18:28:42 UTC  

But yeah nah

2019-04-28 18:28:48 UTC  

Not historically

2019-04-28 18:29:03 UTC  

Not the office of the Pope historically

2019-04-28 18:29:18 UTC  

The office of the Pope since the high Middle-ages

2019-04-28 18:29:47 UTC  

Not even then tbh

2019-04-28 18:29:53 UTC  

Like Vatican II onwards

2019-04-28 18:30:27 UTC  

We cite popes in our confessions on many occasions. In fact, in the book "On the Power and Primacy of the Pope" (the book in our confessions) we cite Pope Gregory repeatedly

2019-04-28 18:30:59 UTC  

More on the Antichrist though

2019-04-28 18:31:07 UTC  

The Greek reads: ἀντιχρίστου

2019-04-28 18:32:12 UTC  

Are jews the chosen people?

2019-04-28 18:32:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/572128080332587008/Screenshot_20190428-143136_BLB.jpg

2019-04-28 18:33:11 UTC  

So what we see here is that we only see the phrase "the Antichrist" in the 1 John passages

2019-04-28 18:33:43 UTC  

But if you actually go read both passages, they both say that antichrists have already come.

2019-04-28 18:34:45 UTC  

The 4:3 passage actually says rather that something is of "the spirit of the antiChrist which you have heard is coming and is already in the world"

2019-04-28 18:35:02 UTC  

@JoeyJoestar1337 the jews stopped being the chosen people as soon as they crucified Jesus and that’s when Christians became Gods people

2019-04-28 18:35:28 UTC  

Yeah, Mac is correct

2019-04-28 18:35:43 UTC  

Book of Job is quite inspiring

2019-04-28 18:36:00 UTC  

Some Pre-millennials will argue some Jews are still chosen, but this idea is not supported in Patristic literature

2019-04-28 18:36:21 UTC  

Did Jesus say? Or is it inferred?

2019-04-28 18:36:37 UTC  

It’s inferred in Abraham and Moses

2019-04-28 18:36:41 UTC  

Jesus makes it clear in Revelation

2019-04-28 18:36:45 UTC  

It's a matter of interpretting the text in context of the Bible

2019-04-28 18:36:51 UTC  

Should we condemn Israel?

2019-04-28 18:36:51 UTC  

Wait that the Jews are evil?

2019-04-28 18:36:58 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-28 18:36:58 UTC  

Also there are no true Jews now really

2019-04-28 18:37:23 UTC  

Revelation will sometimes refer to Israel, but this means the church, which is the new Israel

2019-04-28 18:37:28 UTC  

Today’s jews aren’t the same ones as before

2019-04-28 18:37:32 UTC  

^

2019-04-28 18:37:34 UTC  

Exactly

2019-04-28 18:37:42 UTC  

Revelation refers to they who call themselves Jews but lie

2019-04-28 18:37:48 UTC  

That is Israel

2019-04-28 18:37:52 UTC  

^^^

2019-04-28 18:38:07 UTC  

Christians and “jews” sprouted from the same tree but are two different branches

2019-04-28 18:38:18 UTC  

The 12 tribes are barely traceable now I believe

2019-04-28 18:39:04 UTC  

No jews allowed

2019-04-28 18:41:00 UTC  

Lol

2019-04-28 18:43:00 UTC  

only like 2 are left

2019-04-28 18:43:06 UTC  

God makes it clear what is the future of the barren vine

2019-04-28 18:43:08 UTC  

rest are breeded out or ded