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This is a great resource when reading Revelation. The Catena Bible app too
Personally I want to go through it on my own before I read a commentary
Past that to get a deep understanding, you really have to get into some advanced stuff. I'd recommend becoming familiar with the Dead Sea Scrolls, LXX, and the Old Testament. Apocalyptic literature is like reading one big piece of citation. The book is kinda like a code and the key is other literature
How will we know the antichrist?
The Antichrist is not an individual
Open to interpretation that one
That's a perfect example of a misconception. The NT *never* mentions "the anticheist" it mentions "antichrist" or "an antichrist"
If you ask the Seventh Day Adventists they say the Pope is the Antichrist
I'm not making an interpretation so much as a grammatical observation of the Greek
Lutherans say the office of the pope is Antchrist. We have a whole book in our confessions about it.
But the point is that reading it at a lay level has not historically been permitted for good reason
Gross
Lutherans are gross
I could see why but I have no concrete reason
I can see why currently
But yeah nah
Not historically
Not the office of the Pope historically
The office of the Pope since the high Middle-ages
Like Vatican II onwards
We cite popes in our confessions on many occasions. In fact, in the book "On the Power and Primacy of the Pope" (the book in our confessions) we cite Pope Gregory repeatedly
More on the Antichrist though
The Greek reads: ἀντιχρίστου
Are jews the chosen people?
So what we see here is that we only see the phrase "the Antichrist" in the 1 John passages
But if you actually go read both passages, they both say that antichrists have already come.
The 4:3 passage actually says rather that something is of "the spirit of the antiChrist which you have heard is coming and is already in the world"
@JoeyJoestar1337 the jews stopped being the chosen people as soon as they crucified Jesus and that’s when Christians became Gods people
Yeah, Mac is correct
Book of Job is quite inspiring
Some Pre-millennials will argue some Jews are still chosen, but this idea is not supported in Patristic literature
Did Jesus say? Or is it inferred?
It’s inferred in Abraham and Moses
Jesus makes it clear in Revelation
It's a matter of interpretting the text in context of the Bible
Should we condemn Israel?
Wait that the Jews are evil?
Yes
