Message from @Based Chav

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2019-05-14 17:23:42 UTC  

So it’s just symbolic for you?

2019-05-14 17:23:44 UTC  

It's not actual Eucharist.

2019-05-14 17:23:47 UTC  

It doesn't change atomical structure.

2019-05-14 17:23:51 UTC  

So, no.

2019-05-14 17:23:55 UTC  

rip

2019-05-14 17:24:07 UTC  

So you believe it changes atomical structure?

2019-05-14 17:24:40 UTC  

It's a symbol given to you by a heretic doing a cheapened imitation of the Eucharist.

2019-05-14 17:24:55 UTC  

We bless it.

2019-05-14 17:25:01 UTC  

We pray over it.

2019-05-14 17:25:24 UTC  

It is revered, don't think it isn't.

2019-05-14 17:25:28 UTC  

I bless and pray over my house, it doesn't make it the Eucharist.

2019-05-14 17:25:45 UTC  

It's like a hat. If you go to the shop and buy a baseball cap made from cotton, that is indeed a hat. If you make a baseball cap out of edible wafer, it is still very much a hat, by virtue of its essence as opposed to anatomical structure.

2019-05-14 17:26:57 UTC  

You and your pastor have no Priestly Authority to call the miracle of the Eucharist into being. Your pastor doesn't even ask for that to happen in the first place. It's not the real Eucharistic deal.

2019-05-14 17:26:57 UTC  

Okay, so then you agree with Apostolic succession then, yeah? That only 'elected officials' can bless it?

2019-05-14 17:27:02 UTC  

Same with the Eucharist. It may not have blood cells or skin tissue, but it is still the physical presence of Christ.

2019-05-14 17:27:26 UTC  

What if a building blows up and kills the entire catholic and orthodox clergy, who then has a right to bless it. Everyone who partakes in Christ partakes in the Holy Spirit, so even I can bless the bread and wine.

2019-05-14 17:27:30 UTC  

Priests aren’t elected lol

2019-05-14 17:27:37 UTC  

Holy Orders is a sacrament

2019-05-14 17:27:46 UTC  

Priests are Ordained.

2019-05-14 17:27:52 UTC  

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2019-05-14 17:27:58 UTC  

What a silly hypothetical.

2019-05-14 17:28:17 UTC  

Do we not have the Holy Spirit?

2019-05-14 17:28:30 UTC  

Do we all?

2019-05-14 17:28:39 UTC  

Followers of Christ do.

2019-05-14 17:28:45 UTC  

The Holy Spirit given to us at Baptism isn't enough to make a Priest.

2019-05-14 17:28:51 UTC  

Obviously.

2019-05-14 17:29:02 UTC  

We are all priests of God.

2019-05-14 17:30:10 UTC  

At that point you have reduced the word priest to a meaning that would require another word to refer to ordained priests

2019-05-14 17:30:34 UTC  

But I could also point out that through the entire Bible starting with the OT you can see priests and their functions

2019-05-14 17:30:36 UTC  

1 Peter 2:5

2019-05-14 17:30:36 UTC  

**1 Peter 2:5 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<5> like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ```

2019-05-14 17:30:38 UTC  

We are priests of God to our own souls, maybe to those of our families, but proclaiming the Priesthood of all Believers in an ecclesial sense is like proclaiming the Professorhood of all first-year communications majors

2019-05-14 17:30:59 UTC  

Sure, you can offer spiritual sacrifices

2019-05-14 17:31:12 UTC  

You can't do what requires ordination

2019-05-14 17:31:24 UTC  

Where is ordination in the NT?

2019-05-14 17:31:32 UTC  

Honest question.

2019-05-14 17:31:43 UTC  

Ordination is all through the Bible lmao

2019-05-14 17:31:46 UTC  

Provide aa link.

2019-05-14 17:31:52 UTC  

In the NT

2019-05-14 17:32:20 UTC  

"And he breathed the Holy Spirt on them"

2019-05-14 17:32:28 UTC  

"Upon this rock, I shall build my church"