Message from @Iakovos
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Newman didn't need to be baptised when he became a Catholic.
Orthodox will also accept your Baptism (usually), but since your life has been outside the Church since then, and you've never partaken of the Eucharist, Confession, etc. It's like you put your toe in the pool and then jumped out.
We take Communion every Sunday.
We confess our sins to one another.
Yes yes I know
Apostolic succession.
"Communion" and the "Eucharist" are two entirely different things.
Is your communion the actual Body and Blood of Christ?
Spiritually, yes.
Lol, behave.
Symbolically, yes.
So it’s just symbolic for you?
It's not actual Eucharist.
It doesn't change atomical structure.
So, no.
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So you believe it changes atomical structure?
It's a symbol given to you by a heretic doing a cheapened imitation of the Eucharist.
We bless it.
It is revered, don't think it isn't.
I bless and pray over my house, it doesn't make it the Eucharist.
It's like a hat. If you go to the shop and buy a baseball cap made from cotton, that is indeed a hat. If you make a baseball cap out of edible wafer, it is still very much a hat, by virtue of its essence as opposed to anatomical structure.
You and your pastor have no Priestly Authority to call the miracle of the Eucharist into being. Your pastor doesn't even ask for that to happen in the first place. It's not the real Eucharistic deal.
Okay, so then you agree with Apostolic succession then, yeah? That only 'elected officials' can bless it?
Same with the Eucharist. It may not have blood cells or skin tissue, but it is still the physical presence of Christ.
What if a building blows up and kills the entire catholic and orthodox clergy, who then has a right to bless it. Everyone who partakes in Christ partakes in the Holy Spirit, so even I can bless the bread and wine.
Priests aren’t elected lol
Holy Orders is a sacrament
Priests are Ordained.
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What a silly hypothetical.
Do we not have the Holy Spirit?
Do we all?
Followers of Christ do.
The Holy Spirit given to us at Baptism isn't enough to make a Priest.
Obviously.
We are all priests of God.
At that point you have reduced the word priest to a meaning that would require another word to refer to ordained priests
But I could also point out that through the entire Bible starting with the OT you can see priests and their functions