Message from @Mozalbete ⳩
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You and your pastor have no Priestly Authority to call the miracle of the Eucharist into being. Your pastor doesn't even ask for that to happen in the first place. It's not the real Eucharistic deal.
Okay, so then you agree with Apostolic succession then, yeah? That only 'elected officials' can bless it?
Same with the Eucharist. It may not have blood cells or skin tissue, but it is still the physical presence of Christ.
What if a building blows up and kills the entire catholic and orthodox clergy, who then has a right to bless it. Everyone who partakes in Christ partakes in the Holy Spirit, so even I can bless the bread and wine.
Priests aren’t elected lol
Holy Orders is a sacrament
Priests are Ordained.
<:ohyou2:569616856105877505>
What a silly hypothetical.
Do we not have the Holy Spirit?
Do we all?
Followers of Christ do.
The Holy Spirit given to us at Baptism isn't enough to make a Priest.
Obviously.
We are all priests of God.
At that point you have reduced the word priest to a meaning that would require another word to refer to ordained priests
But I could also point out that through the entire Bible starting with the OT you can see priests and their functions
1 Peter 2:5
**1 Peter 2:5 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<5> like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ```
We are priests of God to our own souls, maybe to those of our families, but proclaiming the Priesthood of all Believers in an ecclesial sense is like proclaiming the Professorhood of all first-year communications majors
You can't do what requires ordination
Where is ordination in the NT?
Honest question.
Ordination is all through the Bible lmao
Provide aa link.
In the NT
"And he breathed the Holy Spirt on them"
"Upon this rock, I shall build my church"
That's just the first couple of bits.
Laying on of hands by Christ to His Apostles or the Apostles to specific members of their disciples, and the breathing of the Holy Spirit on them.
I think you ahve a certain distorted view of the NT
<:ohyou2:569616856105877505>
Alright, I will go and explain this to my elders and get their opinions, you have affirmed what the priest said.
The NT is not presented as some kind of "literally everything about divinity and priesthood"
Some books of the NT relate to the life of Jesus, so they talk about that
Others are letters to some communities, so they talk about that
@Mozalbete ⳩ that is why we seek Guidance.
Others describe revelations, etc.
So to study the presence of ordained priesthood you also look at many more sources that you have at your disposal