turn to God

@Mozalbete ⳩ unban claire's old acc if u did

thanks

just pray for me on that guys, cause I don't know where to go from here. My cousin is one of my best friends, and he's been sucked into 6 months of YWAM conditioning so he's gonna be even further in that bad way when he gets back, and idk who I'm gonna have left if I can't find a safe church soon. I don't have much faith in my girlfriend's church as a community, I just need some rescue at this point

My question is why are you a part of a church that only has an unsound doctrine like sola scriptura.

Begome

Begum

@SUPER MALE VITALITY™ For things to be done right, you have to do them yourself. In whatever community you find, try to create a group where you set the rules

@Based Chav Our friend here is part of the communities he has grown with, don't hammer him over it, since there is nothing wrong with looking for a group of study

@Mozalbete ⳩ get in chat?

It's hard to make a leader out of someone who only ever wanted to follow. I always grew up with trustworthy shepherds, it's hard negotiating a world where I'm forced to become one or be led astray

adapt and overcome

I always trusted God would send leaders to guide me, but that was never a promise

maybe God wants you to man up

it's hard confronting the realities of what was promised versus what was given, and was so easily taken

In my personal experience, God has shown me that those with little faith tend to be better people than those who claim to be raised Catholics

I only recently turned heavily to tradition though, but I have discerned that most people around me are not themselves

It's a process and a refinement, right now I'm still grappling with just how ill prepared I've been to do what is asked of me, trying to pray for guidance and for a path to be laid out

What has been helping me was to disconnect from the world (not socially, just not messing with anyone)

I wasn't given the gift of leadership, and what gifts I have are so squandered all I want is to do that, just get away and live a hermit's life until I can be healed and actually help save others

Maybe something that doesnt require leadership, like periodical reunions to study

What happened to ragnarok

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Might be what I need, I had plans for a tradprot monastery at one point, but that's a lot of logistics for someone operating alone

Not something that big lmao

But if you go to some parish or whatever

And there is no similar group of study

You could start one, where you just agree to met, and discuss some topic

If you want things to not to be distorted you have to do them yourself

Men are often tested, if you had good leaders follow their example and always strive for virtue, with this in mind following their steps will become clearer

I appreciate you guys. Feel so fucking alone sometimes being in the position I'm in, when you guys get serious it reminds me of all the people I've lost over the years

I'm gonna keep striving, getting myself together. God willing I'll find a place I can get others together too

And if the people are good enough and you are sly, you can always put some people in the right track

Because people who arent 100% degenerate aremany times interested in sound theology and doctrine

@Wrath Forgot to mention it. Can't chat right now, going to work soon

Grace and truth are the metrics I've used for a long while on the health of a church. Graceless truth is punishing, you seem to understand that pretty well Moz, but all I see in the modernist church movement is truthless grace, and I can't let that condemn a generation, whatever is in my power. Better to beat the brow than burn in hell, Athanasius contra mundus so be it, just Lord give me strength

@Mozalbete ⳩ good luck at work

@SUPER MALE VITALITY™ I understand that people aren't willing to accept the mass of debauchery and petty modernism that there is in the modern world. I also like to use examples like yours to show the consequences of it lmao, so much for being "inclusive", when that inclusiveness ends up rejecting the best ones.

Tbh I was close to becoming one of those "love Jesus hate the church" fags I hate before finding this group

it's a real burden on the spirit

@SUPER MALE VITALITY™ your own curiosity is what keeps Christianity alive.