I was raised catholic but without actual involvement and compromise, and it took me many years to confess for the first time

I don't think confession is imperative for salvation. Surely you can just repent and ask God for forgiveness.

People cannot be trusted to repent by themselves

Surely if someone truly repents he will go to confession

That is why you can see many people who, a lot of time after repenting, they cry when they confess

Because there is this awareness of a full act of seeking forgiveness and acknowledgement of sin

"I am repentant. But I don't need to go to confession"

Pride is a terrible thing

To be fair. If I was to confess my sins it would be to someone I know and feel comfortable with. I don't see the benefit of telling some stranger in a box everything I've done wrong. And like ontop of that surely my sin is between God and I and it is for God to forgive. The priest is not essential in this.

Look, we are all ashamed of our sins, and we all have tried to look for excuses so that we don't have to confess them

>someone I know and feel comfortable with
So, your spiritual father?

Well, in Orthodoxy you have the comfort of looking your father in the eyes as you tell him what kind of a scumbag you are

@Daniil
Isn't our spiritual father God? Not necisarry a priest.

inb4 call no man your father bit

The priest acts on behalf of God, precisely, which is why God gives the Church authority to forgive sins

And why it is basic teaching that it is God that forgives sins

@Daniil Orthodox confession is face-to-face, huh?

Yeah

Huh.

Dominicans tend to do it that way, too.

And by father we refer to a figure here on Earth that guides and teaches us in divine matters

Yeah but there's a difference between our spiritual father and our earthly father. Our spiritual father is God surely.

God the Father and a spiritual father to guide you to God the Father are two different things.

A priest is involved and guides in spiritual manners. Even in spiritual affairs, the word "father" can be used in several ways

Why not just teacher then? Or pastor? Less confusion and abiguity.

More like "more appealing to protestant habits"

Christ also says to call nobody teacher

He also calls himself the good pastor

I don't see any ambiguity. Nobody is going to suddenly want to confess or go to Church because priests are suddenly not refered to as "father" or whatever

Im gonna draw an appeal to tradition card on this one, chief.

Isn't pastor translated from Latin meaning Shepard?

it is

1 Corinthians 4:14-16

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Ya gonna have to punch that in yourself

Damn squiggle boys

1 Corinthians 4:14-16

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