Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2019-07-22 19:28:14 UTC  

nah man

2019-07-22 19:28:50 UTC  

i said that not allowing divorce and remarriage in certain cases dooms people to a painful death

2019-07-22 19:28:56 UTC  

>complains about autism
>does this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/602945193099919390/Screenshot_20190722-152816_Discord.jpg

2019-07-22 19:29:13 UTC  

I just said what you said without the embelishment

2019-07-22 19:29:33 UTC  

I'm sure there are cases where not practicing polygamy can also lead someone to a painful dead

2019-07-22 19:29:41 UTC  

If someone is married to a poor wife or husband

2019-07-22 19:29:45 UTC  

Whitespace indentation is fucking bullshit.

2019-07-22 19:29:53 UTC  

According to you, it is allowed for that person to marry more people

2019-07-22 19:31:32 UTC  

fake news

2019-07-22 19:32:28 UTC  

bada bing

2019-07-22 19:32:44 UTC  

bada boom

2019-07-22 19:33:42 UTC  

God himself allowed Moses and Israelites to divorce and remarry given their circstances

2019-07-22 19:33:57 UTC  

He also allowed them to have several wives

2019-07-22 19:33:57 UTC  

which means its not moral law, its closer to ceremonial law

2019-07-22 19:34:37 UTC  

i mean, several major patriarchs had several wives. its not a universal moral transgression

2019-07-22 19:34:53 UTC  

This is not just ceremony, because marriage is a sacrament, and what God binds, it is not for men to divide

2019-07-22 19:35:08 UTC  

except for Moses

2019-07-22 19:35:33 UTC  

So those authors who say that sexual immorality disolves marriage can go ********************

2019-07-22 19:35:53 UTC  

Mosaic law was replaced already wasn’t it?

2019-07-22 19:36:11 UTC  

Rather than replaced, it fulfilled its function

2019-07-22 19:36:18 UTC  

In a way, of course, it was replaced

2019-07-22 19:36:23 UTC  

Because it fulfilled its function

2019-07-22 19:36:32 UTC  

Yeah

2019-07-22 19:37:37 UTC  

ill be sure to tell that to
```4. Divorce and remarriage allowed.
a. For husband while adulterous wife lives: St. Basil, St. Epiphanius of Salamis, St. Augustine (at first said otherwise but changed his mind and then reverted back to first opinion), Tertullian, Ambrosiaster, St. Theodore of Canterbury, Council of Trullo, Council of Vannes 465, Council of Rome in 826.
b. For either innocent husband or wife in case of an adulterous spouse or other offense: Epiphanius of Salamis, ”Exceptions” of Egbert, Patriarch Alexis of Constantinople (addresses only the case of the woman).
c. For adulterous spouse after period of penance: St. Theodore of Canterbury.
d. Because marriage can be dissolved by adultery (insinuating remarriage could occur as the first one no longer exists): St. Cyril of Alexandria, St. Asterius of Amasea, St. Theodore of Canterbury, Lactanius, Hilary of Poitier.
e. After other spouse takes monastic vows: St. Theodore of Canterbury, Council of Compiegne,
f. For husband allowed while first wife lives due to first wife’s health: Pope Gregory II.
g. For husband if wife tries to kill him: Council of Verberie
h. For husband if stranded in a foreign land for good: Council of Verberie
```

2019-07-22 19:37:45 UTC  

And also observe

2019-07-22 19:37:57 UTC  

How in that very text you mention, the most popular position there is that

2019-07-22 19:38:37 UTC  

The remarriage is allowed only for the husband (probably because Paul mentions how a woman that separates must not remarry). And of course, implying that the same does not apply to men is foolish

2019-07-22 19:43:05 UTC  

"But Moses allowed us to divorce our wives"
"He did so because of your hard hearts. From the beginning the plan was one man, one woman, one inseparable flesh."

2019-07-22 19:43:14 UTC  

Paraphrasing obviously

2019-07-22 19:46:21 UTC  

and the hearts have softened much?

2019-07-22 19:46:43 UTC  

In cause you didn't notice, we aren't subject to the mosaic law

2019-07-22 19:47:13 UTC  

but the eternal one

2019-07-22 19:47:56 UTC  

Just saying they used the "but Moses" argument and Christ directly rebuked them for it

2019-07-22 19:48:15 UTC  

sure

2019-07-22 19:48:30 UTC  

the ideal is one man, one woman, forever

2019-07-22 19:48:53 UTC  

It's the only legitimate thing because of the nature of marriage

2019-07-22 19:48:56 UTC  

this ideal can be deviated from for extreme practical reasons tho as Moses demonstrates

2019-07-22 19:49:05 UTC  

<:bruh:569616839340982272>

2019-07-22 19:49:11 UTC  

so Moses and Israelites had no legitimate marriag

2019-07-22 19:49:13 UTC  

got it

2019-07-22 19:49:26 UTC  

I really wonder in how many heresies and perversions of scripture you are going to indulge, only to defend your nonsense