Message from @ElPacho

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2019-08-15 02:55:21 UTC  

**Revelation 6:8 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<8> And behold a pale horse, and he that sat upon him, his name was Death, and hell followed him. And power was given to him over the four parts of the earth, to kill with sword, with famine, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. ```

2019-08-15 02:55:37 UTC  

It reads like a dream

2019-08-15 02:56:35 UTC  

I know you're not the retard disagreeing with it, but I'm just demonstrating so that next time you can call a person on their bullshit

2019-08-15 02:56:36 UTC  

ok, but yeah I was laughing my ass off when he said there was no rider and what his justification for saying that was. It was the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life, yet I fear someone is going to hard win that position.

2019-08-15 02:57:03 UTC  

yeah he's an absolute ignorant

2019-08-15 02:57:07 UTC  

TBH, the dumbest people are usually the Sola Scripture prots

2019-08-15 02:57:12 UTC  

he is convinced crusades were evil and unjustified

2019-08-15 02:57:24 UTC  

i know right

2019-08-15 02:57:26 UTC  

Imagine believing that

2019-08-15 02:57:58 UTC  

since he isn't convinced by the links i give him he deems it false immediately

2019-08-15 02:58:25 UTC  

I have been obsessed with the book of revelations recently, my favourite biblical book besides John.

2019-08-15 02:58:40 UTC  

doesn't even have de decency to glance over the references or links

2019-08-15 02:58:51 UTC  

book of revelations has some veryinteresting stuff yeah

2019-08-15 02:59:17 UTC  

Also who wrote the book of Revelations, I know it was a John but I heard there was like 3 different Figures who it could be.

2019-08-15 03:00:10 UTC  

I had some guy tell me that baptism is just a symbol because the term " born of water" meant a woman's water breaking lmao

2019-08-15 03:01:03 UTC  

i remember there being a series of books on the lies against the church, like the crusades and the "reformation" and the like

2019-08-15 03:05:28 UTC  

but then i'd have to get those books

2019-08-15 03:06:02 UTC  

can a charitable soul provide me with a link disproving the obvious lies and myths around the crusades?

2019-08-15 03:07:56 UTC  

all i find are old blogs and docs made by israel lovers

2019-08-15 03:08:34 UTC  

Lying against the Church is nothing new, ever since I read up on America's founding fathers, i actively starting disliking them. Thomas Paine, the faggot who wrote "Age of reason" actively made fun of Catholics being massacred by Robespierre saying how "they should perform their miracles now". The same asshole who talked about freedom, actively laughed at the freedom of the Clergy being taken away and them being exiled or killed. America as a country is Anti Catholic, America has never been supportive of Catholics, the one Catholic president we had got Shot, the people who founded it slandered the Church and now modern americans (and this is everywhere too, but it is caused by Americanism) are trying to subvert Church Dogma and morality.

2019-08-15 03:11:49 UTC  

yeah it ain't called the Great Satan for nothing

2019-08-15 03:12:08 UTC  

hmm, I never heard it being called "The Great satan", who invented that term

2019-08-15 03:13:49 UTC  

heard it being thrown around a lot

2019-08-15 03:13:54 UTC  

i think it fits

2019-08-15 03:13:58 UTC  

I agree

2019-08-15 03:29:38 UTC  

Sola Scripura Protestants aren't that dumb, the dumb ones are usually just followers of Sola Scriptora Protestants that half listen to the people they idolize and act like that's tantamount to actually opening up scripture. Not that Sola Scriptora Protestants always come to sound conclusions or anything, but Catholics don't tend to give Scripture enough credit. It is adequate for most things to the average person, authority mostly exists to make sure people who don't actually have reading comprehension skills aren't spreading half-read bullshit (outside a few key issues where there is genuine debate)

2019-08-15 03:30:35 UTC  

Sola Scriptura is dumb

2019-08-15 03:30:37 UTC  

Context IS important, and reading it without guidance can give way to any kind of erroneous interpretation or conclusion on it's teachings

2019-08-15 03:30:46 UTC  

Therefore, Sola Scriptura prots are dumb

2019-08-15 03:31:06 UTC  

sola scriptura more like dumbdumb scriptura

2019-08-15 03:32:07 UTC  

It is, but also the context for the practical aspects of scripture are there as well. Of course guidance is necessary for the more philosophical bits of theology, and understanding a lot of the why, but scripture is robust in itself for the life of the average person.

2019-08-15 03:32:44 UTC  

My Dad believes that Faith alone is what saves a man, but then James says that "Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?"

2019-08-15 03:32:44 UTC  

Doesn't seem that way, considering the protestants can't even follow basic scripture.

2019-08-15 03:32:55 UTC  

James 2:24

2019-08-15 03:32:55 UTC  

**James 2:24 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<24> Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? ```

2019-08-15 03:33:42 UTC  

of course we can't discredit the importance of the scripture, but that cannot be the basis of your beliefs and morality by itself

2019-08-15 03:33:43 UTC  

Faith and works is a chicken and egg question, both camps believe there needs to be the presence of both outside megachurch retards

2019-08-15 03:34:01 UTC  

Sola Fide is just as irrational as Sola Scripture though

2019-08-15 03:35:09 UTC  

yes it is

2019-08-15 03:35:29 UTC  

Sola Fide essentially is meant to mean you are saved by faith, but if you are saved there will be works, or else you are not because you bear no fruit. It's not meant to mean the contemporary bullshit of "I have faith so I can do whatever and I'm definately saved"

2019-08-15 03:35:36 UTC  

Both are dumb as shit lmao