but then i'd have to get those books

can a charitable soul provide me with a link disproving the obvious lies and myths around the crusades?

all i find are old blogs and docs made by israel lovers

Lying against the Church is nothing new, ever since I read up on America's founding fathers, i actively starting disliking them. Thomas Paine, the faggot who wrote "Age of reason" actively made fun of Catholics being massacred by Robespierre saying how "they should perform their miracles now". The same asshole who talked about freedom, actively laughed at the freedom of the Clergy being taken away and them being exiled or killed. America as a country is Anti Catholic, America has never been supportive of Catholics, the one Catholic president we had got Shot, the people who founded it slandered the Church and now modern americans (and this is everywhere too, but it is caused by Americanism) are trying to subvert Church Dogma and morality.

yeah it ain't called the Great Satan for nothing

hmm, I never heard it being called "The Great satan", who invented that term

heard it being thrown around a lot

i think it fits

I agree

Sola Scripura Protestants aren't that dumb, the dumb ones are usually just followers of Sola Scriptora Protestants that half listen to the people they idolize and act like that's tantamount to actually opening up scripture. Not that Sola Scriptora Protestants always come to sound conclusions or anything, but Catholics don't tend to give Scripture enough credit. It is adequate for most things to the average person, authority mostly exists to make sure people who don't actually have reading comprehension skills aren't spreading half-read bullshit (outside a few key issues where there is genuine debate)

Sola Scriptura is dumb

Context IS important, and reading it without guidance can give way to any kind of erroneous interpretation or conclusion on it's teachings

Therefore, Sola Scriptura prots are dumb

sola scriptura more like dumbdumb scriptura

It is, but also the context for the practical aspects of scripture are there as well. Of course guidance is necessary for the more philosophical bits of theology, and understanding a lot of the why, but scripture is robust in itself for the life of the average person.

My Dad believes that Faith alone is what saves a man, but then James says that "Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?"

Doesn't seem that way, considering the protestants can't even follow basic scripture.

James 2:24

**James 2:24 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<24> Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? ```

of course we can't discredit the importance of the scripture, but that cannot be the basis of your beliefs and morality by itself

Faith and works is a chicken and egg question, both camps believe there needs to be the presence of both outside megachurch retards

Sola Fide is just as irrational as Sola Scripture though

yes it is

Sola Fide essentially is meant to mean you are saved by faith, but if you are saved there will be works, or else you are not because you bear no fruit. It's not meant to mean the contemporary bullshit of "I have faith so I can do whatever and I'm definately saved"

Both are dumb as shit lmao

Prots are dumb

Agreed

Sola literally means Alone

Sola Fide, Faith Alone, there cannot be anything else with it or else it is not Faith Alone, but Faith and Works

Reformation theology is more complex than the pithy statements people have clung to, just like even Calvinists don't understand the five points of Calvinism a lot of times because so many people clung to the TULIP acronym

sola fide was proposed as a counter to the (errenous) understanding of indulgences

a heresy can be as detailed as it wants

Matthew 7:24-27

**Matthew 7:24-27 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<24> Every one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock, <25> And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell not, for it was founded on a rock. <26> And every one that heareth these my words, and doth them not, shall be like a foolish man that built his house upon the sand, <27> And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell, and great was the fall thereof. ```

Faith alone sets works as fruit rather than an element of the roots of salvation.

That is my rebuttal to Protestantism, it doesn't matter how nice it looks, if the foundation is bad, so is the structure.

it cannot be argued that sola fide or sola scriptura, or martin luther's complains are valid at all

there is no base

and you cannot defend sola scriptura with the bible, which is all kinds of ironic

I already posted it but the Bible says Faith alone is not justification enough. So Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide are contradictory.

Faith and works sets works as the root rather than the fruit, it's a valid concern when monastics had gone from men trusting God to send them work to men believing their work was their salvation rather than Christ.