>post V2 canonisations

most of these martyrs are from the 15th and 16th century, so that's irrelevant

the claim of no brazilian saints sounds too wild to be true

tbh

ikr

at first I thought it was shitposting

It's true tbh

Heard it from the horse's mouth

I thought autism was against the rules

anyhow, despite the disrespectful retardation, I'd like to share one of the most based brazilian historical characters that defended the integrity of the Church here against Freemasonry, Dom Vital, he's still in the process of beatification and canonization, so he received the title of Servant of God, he had direct contact with Pius IX at the time due to that clear infiltration and mockery by the masons in the Catholic Church, which resulted on Pius IX's direct orders to excommunicate every mason in the Catholic Church here, but our emperor rejected it and some of our bishops were arrested, Dom Vital included, this period was called here as Religious Question, definitely worth reading. Two decades later there was a coup d'etat by the same freemasons that the emperor covered, and they proclaimed our Republic and exiled the emperor to Europe.

Which Emporer was that, Pedro II?

yeah Pedro II

he acknowledged his mistake later in his life tho

his daughter Princess Isabel tried her best to make the Church's decisions prevail, but unfortunately that's not what happened

actually her role on this were effective even tho her decisions were not as decisive since Pedro II was in power

I watched a docummentary about this yesterday, I wish it had english subtitles so I could share it here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Question

despite the heretic cartoon, the jewkipedia article sums what happened quite well

Fuck.

I always thought Pedro was pretty based.

what is freemasonry? i imagine a group of masons (builders) who had political power, but i also imagine its much more complex than that

i tried to read that wikipedia article. now im even more confused

what i got
>catholicism was slacking in brazil
>the church sent bishops to whip them into shape
>freemasonry had infiltrated the church, but they were excommunicated
>a power struggle insued

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Someone fucking pin this.

f i n e

>general

Iirc it started as a masonry guild that got progressively more occult through thr centuries, then started hiding it all over the last few decades as all their shit has gotten leaked

just a little charity that hapoens to have a system of degrees and rituals that reveal esoteric knowledge that ends up with the revelation of worshipping satan. Nothing to worry about, goy

they weren't excommunicated, the emperor Dom Pedro II refused to accomplish the Pope's orders, he was too naive to think the masons were good people because of their influence, either he knew how evil these people are and let them keep them in positions of power here, or he was too silly to balance everything here between freemasonry, the Church and the State altogether. @ninjacats

though some bishops had to expel masons from their Cathedrals manually at the time, those who weren't mason themselves and wanted to keep their Cathedrals clean from these leeches

If repentance is honest, can any sin be forgiven?

@Based Chav he was based but he was too silly, he got into war with Paraguay with influence of the eternal anglo, he allowed some jews here when they were running from the Catholic Church in Europe, he had alliances with the (((masons)))... But despite of that, he was a good ruler and we had a strong identity with him

@Artorius there's only one sin that cannot be unforgiven.

That's sin against the Holy Spirit?

Right?

Yes.

Isn't that just denying it's existence?

I don't know specifics.

Wait that might be catholic understanding, do orthodox have same understanding?