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2019-12-02 02:37:57 UTC  

@Enryse what is it that you're asking for anyway? (the typos are fine btw )

2019-12-02 02:38:10 UTC  

Partially*

2019-12-02 02:40:04 UTC  

Now, a logic explanation of your beliefs taken from common grund. But it all started with something i said earlier

2019-12-02 02:40:18 UTC  

Legos can assemble already existent legos, they cannot make legos

2019-12-02 02:40:47 UTC  

SELF MAKING LEGOS

2019-12-02 02:41:43 UTC  

Legoman: headin to the Lego store y'all want anything?

2019-12-02 02:41:48 UTC  

@Enryse, well I'd like to know what your beliefs are so that I understand where you're coming from. Are you an agnostic, an atheist, a Jew?

2019-12-02 02:42:14 UTC  

And what makes you thing that "god" is not made of the same thing that his creations

2019-12-02 02:42:16 UTC  

?

2019-12-02 02:42:34 UTC  

Agnostic

2019-12-02 02:42:39 UTC  

I think

2019-12-02 02:42:41 UTC  

Gotcha

2019-12-02 02:43:19 UTC  

Fence-sitter

2019-12-02 02:43:45 UTC  

I don't know if that describes all my postures, but at least most of them acording to a friend

2019-12-02 02:44:41 UTC  

Anything that we could define as god would need to be beyond the limits and bounds of the physical universe in order to be the creator of said universe.

2019-12-02 02:45:27 UTC  

Well, thats just the point of agnosticism i think

2019-12-02 02:45:42 UTC  

How could you (a material thing) know?

2019-12-02 02:46:47 UTC  

That's the point of Faith

2019-12-02 02:46:55 UTC  

You can't ever really be certain, logically

2019-12-02 02:47:11 UTC  

Yes you can

2019-12-02 02:47:17 UTC  

You can reason, understand it is *probable* that there is God

2019-12-02 02:47:34 UTC  

We have plenty of explanations that all support God

2019-12-02 02:47:38 UTC  

Basic logic is literally self-evident and completely objective

2019-12-02 02:47:53 UTC  

The only problem is that people aren't.

2019-12-02 02:48:28 UTC  

That's what metaphysics, faith, and theology are for

2019-12-02 02:48:36 UTC  
2019-12-02 02:48:51 UTC  

And there are plenty of explanations that doesnt support god, at the end is just "how can You proove that ot exists" and "how can You proove it doesnt"

2019-12-02 02:49:08 UTC  

Matter just 'existing' is equally as provable as it being created. God said he created everything, so he did. There's no reason to believe he's just assembling parts when all laws of reality are subject to his will.

2019-12-02 02:49:49 UTC  

@Enryse do you believe in the "burden of proof"?

2019-12-02 02:51:13 UTC  

If 'existing' is equally as provable as it being created.
And God exists.
God was created.

2019-12-02 02:51:31 UTC  

what's the burden of proof?

2019-12-02 02:52:09 UTC  

God wasn't created

2019-12-02 02:52:11 UTC  

Omg cunt people have legit answered that question in the year 8000BC

2019-12-02 02:52:20 UTC  

God is the unmoved mover

2019-12-02 02:52:36 UTC  

yes, the uncaused cause

2019-12-02 02:52:38 UTC  

Existence is what God creates, without God there is no existing

2019-12-02 02:53:16 UTC  

That the burden of proof is on the one who makes a claim, and without sufficient proof we should not accept the claim

2019-12-02 02:54:01 UTC  

sorry, i misunderstood one word in the fist sentence

2019-12-02 02:54:29 UTC  

on "'existing' is equally as provable as it being created."

2019-12-02 02:55:02 UTC  

unmoved mover, uncause causer, ok

2019-12-02 02:55:19 UTC  

so he wasn't created, that's what you are saying?