Message from @Phobia

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2019-08-17 21:31:49 UTC  

`Having or showing faulty judgement or reasoning.`

2019-08-17 21:31:54 UTC  

Correct

2019-08-17 21:32:00 UTC  

Does the imply subjectivity?

2019-08-17 21:32:25 UTC  

judgement is subjective

2019-08-17 21:32:41 UTC  

What's the definition of judgement

2019-08-17 21:33:01 UTC  

An opinion or conclusion.

2019-08-17 21:33:15 UTC  

Is that the oxford dictionary conclusion?

2019-08-17 21:33:28 UTC  

'The ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions.'

2019-08-17 21:33:29 UTC  

for the count noun, yes

2019-08-17 21:34:35 UTC  

The mass noun would be correct for usage, the example provided showcases this: '‘an error of judgement’

2019-08-17 21:34:47 UTC  

which is subjective

2019-08-17 21:34:50 UTC  

either way lol

2019-08-17 21:35:11 UTC  

some judgements *can be* objective

2019-08-17 21:35:15 UTC  

Right

2019-08-17 21:35:32 UTC  

Regardless, my case works in the case of 'reasoning'

2019-08-17 21:35:45 UTC  

many people would come to the conclusion that not all religious people are brainwashed

2019-08-17 21:35:51 UTC  

therefore it is not objective

2019-08-17 21:36:07 UTC  

1 + 1 = 2 is subjective, opinion is not relevant

2019-08-17 21:36:09 UTC  

for example

2019-08-17 21:36:24 UTC  

Depends on what the terms can be extrapolated to mean

2019-08-17 21:36:26 UTC  

so, it is an opinion of individuals that religious people are brainwashed

2019-08-17 21:36:38 UTC  

not an objective fact

2019-08-17 21:36:58 UTC  

in order for that to be objective, you'd need to disprove the existence of a creator without a reasonable doubt

2019-08-17 21:37:20 UTC  

misguided is, in my opinion, a more appropriate word

2019-08-17 21:38:15 UTC  

Yes but to the extent towards the right facts are deployed it can be stated that those who are worshipping gods are making an error of judgement as they believe that there is fact showcasing the existence of god when there isn't fact to show that this fact is linked to the existence of god.

2019-08-17 21:38:18 UTC  

And no

2019-08-17 21:38:23 UTC  

That's not how the burden of proof works

2019-08-17 21:38:46 UTC  

neither side can prove or disprove

2019-08-17 21:38:55 UTC  

Which is why I never claim god doesn't exist

2019-08-17 21:38:59 UTC  

there really is no possibility of a burden of proof

2019-08-17 21:39:13 UTC  

you're entitled to your opinion 😉

2019-08-17 21:39:24 UTC  

Why so?

2019-08-17 21:40:00 UTC  

because neither side has the ability to prove their side or disprove the other side

2019-08-17 21:40:09 UTC  

Why do they lack this ability?

2019-08-17 21:40:12 UTC  

it's not a worthwhile argument to have

2019-08-17 21:40:19 UTC  

What makes it not worthwhile?

2019-08-17 21:40:20 UTC  

I claim it is misguided; 'an error of judgement' to assume that there are facts pointing towards the objective existence of god, worshipping is an act derived from belief in the conditioned existence of god, I question why people should be conditioned to such a belief?

2019-08-17 21:40:24 UTC  

prove to me that God doesn't exist

2019-08-17 21:40:33 UTC  

you can't, just like I can't prove that He does

2019-08-17 21:40:35 UTC  

I can't because I lack the evidence

2019-08-17 21:40:40 UTC  

not because I lack the ability