Message from @ANCAPOLDJACK
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Voluntarism is the concept of a society interacting voluntarily, voluntaryism is specifically about voluntary governance, so voluntarism can include and does over 20 different positions from anprim to ansyn
But how would the society function with the different ideologies?
Through pneumaic ethics or a similar ethical set
so like the best parts of a mutualist society rely around mitigetting the damaging effects of capitalism by forming worker Co-Ops, in a voluntarist society you can do much the same thing, however you can also network with other types of business's that may be opperating in a somewhat different way then your own, keep in mind with out government weather it be mutualist or not corporations would not exist though and so you wouldn't have to worry about them @ANCAPOLDJACK
Okay
Hmm
So it’s more effective in which how people interact and adapt?
Mutualism can exist with individual property rights by combining multiple people’s property rights Into a communal contract, thus allowing for communes or co-op run businesses in a individualist society
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@ANCAPOLDJACK exactly, it's a true free market on ideas all allowed to coexit at the same time, in such an enviroment competition and inovation should bring about the best possible society
So what would happen with the government?
there is no government
voluntarism is an anarchist ideology much like mutualism is
the only governace we believe in is self governace
you own your self and all things spring from that
Sorry I didn’t mean government
I mean more like
All services would be replaced over time by market competition but at first there would be LCU options with competition to start, but the LCU offers private welfare, education, etc
Do any individuals hold any levels of power or a hierarchy?
But it won’t adapt or evolve so the market can outcompete it
Protect yes, control no
@ANCAPOLDJACK so like the idea is to get to a point of decentrlised networks of various people and groups so no real hierarchy forms
The LCU is a steping stone in that direction
And this society is almost guaranteed to be successful?
GG @ANCAPOLDJACK, you just advanced to level 2!
In what cases would the society fall apart?
well there's no guarentees in life but the more free market solutions we can come up with to fullfill basic services that everyone wants and needs the better chance we have of making this work long term
since we are primarily as market orented kind of anarhcist ideology we have the best and greatest minds from both sides of the fence
indeed many AnCaps and mutualists alike become voluntarists
Where would you put this
Center left - right wing
Middle right wing
Or far right wing
Or maybe middle left wing
I hate useing such basic politcal compases but if I had to say probably dead center all the way on the bottem of the chart, center maximum liberty
I thought so
Political compasses aren’t very accurate are they?
not really, especialy for explaining what we are because we litterly have AnCaps and syndicalists working together
for example we have people with an AnCap background that want to start a business and be the sole owner of that business with workers he hires but we have syndicalists that want to form voluntary unions and the voluntarist AnCaps are perfectly fine with the syndicalists forming thos unions