Message from @ANCAPOLDJACK
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And I don’t feel comfortable going more to the left than I already have
@Terry Arcona so what exactly is great about voluntarism?
is for me too, but the point is there are room for these other ideologies so long as you're not forcing them on anyone els
So any points why I should switch to voluntarism?
@ANCAPOLDJACK well, we're very much a market oriented and liberty minded ideology, voluntarism takes left Rothbardian ideas and expands upon them
instead of various different anarchist groups not getting along and as such not working together much, as voluntarists we tend to be able to get along and fight for common goals @ANCAPOLDJACK
So could you explain how exactly this society would contrast a mutualist one? (In terms of how it would be better)
When you have time of course
of course
I have pleanty of time right now
I am also new to voluntarism
I have not looked into it much
not a problem at all
Thank you
Voluntarism is the concept of a society interacting voluntarily, voluntaryism is specifically about voluntary governance, so voluntarism can include and does over 20 different positions from anprim to ansyn
But how would the society function with the different ideologies?
Through pneumaic ethics or a similar ethical set
so like the best parts of a mutualist society rely around mitigetting the damaging effects of capitalism by forming worker Co-Ops, in a voluntarist society you can do much the same thing, however you can also network with other types of business's that may be opperating in a somewhat different way then your own, keep in mind with out government weather it be mutualist or not corporations would not exist though and so you wouldn't have to worry about them @ANCAPOLDJACK
Okay
So it’s more effective in which how people interact and adapt?
Mutualism can exist with individual property rights by combining multiple people’s property rights Into a communal contract, thus allowing for communes or co-op run businesses in a individualist society
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@ANCAPOLDJACK exactly, it's a true free market on ideas all allowed to coexit at the same time, in such an enviroment competition and inovation should bring about the best possible society
So what would happen with the government?
there is no government
voluntarism is an anarchist ideology much like mutualism is
the only governace we believe in is self governace
you own your self and all things spring from that
Sorry I didn’t mean government
I mean more like
All services would be replaced over time by market competition but at first there would be LCU options with competition to start, but the LCU offers private welfare, education, etc
Do any individuals hold any levels of power or a hierarchy?
That are able to control society
But it won’t adapt or evolve so the market can outcompete it
Protect yes, control no
@ANCAPOLDJACK so like the idea is to get to a point of decentrlised networks of various people and groups so no real hierarchy forms
The LCU is a steping stone in that direction
And this society is almost guaranteed to be successful?