Message from @Sdeck37

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2018-05-08 11:26:39 UTC  

Glad I wasn't talking out of my ass

2018-05-08 11:27:25 UTC  

(That data is from UNESCO if they ask)

2018-05-08 11:27:34 UTC  

They are always trying to question me and prove that China is the best and then get it turned around when they learn the truth

2018-05-08 11:27:39 UTC  

Then a bunch of excuses come out

2018-05-08 11:27:43 UTC  

And they don't trust the data

2018-05-08 11:27:48 UTC  
2018-05-08 11:27:49 UTC  

Saying they are racist against Chinese

2018-05-08 11:28:27 UTC  

word of warning tho : unesco is darn timesink with that dataportal

2018-05-08 11:28:39 UTC  

its almost worse than daytripping to wikipedia

2018-05-08 11:28:44 UTC  

Haha

2018-05-08 11:29:36 UTC  

there is data from "repeatters in primary education"

2018-05-08 11:29:47 UTC  

and same data as % and so on

2018-05-08 11:30:32 UTC  
2018-05-08 11:30:36 UTC  

all that data

2018-05-08 11:31:32 UTC  

funfact "goverment expenditure on education as % of GPD" > china is just ------

2018-05-08 11:31:44 UTC  

on hong kong at least its reportted ~3%

2018-05-08 11:54:29 UTC  

@kaetaa The simplification for literacy thing seems pretty bullshit though. Taiwan's literacy rate is still greater than the mainland's iirc. The set of characters that are simplified (and used in day to day life) isn't that large to begin with and if you know trad. or simp., you could learn the other in pretty much no time.

2018-05-08 11:55:02 UTC  

basically, the problem is china

2018-05-08 11:55:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248100475054850050/443380309895938051/autistic.png

2018-05-08 13:33:54 UTC  

China didn't dumb down their writing system to increase literacy but to prevent information exchange with the ROC

2018-05-08 13:35:53 UTC  

<:thvnk:332928260004642827>

2018-05-08 13:36:36 UTC  

It's funny because mainland chinks I've spoken to can all read my traditional

2018-05-08 13:37:10 UTC  

granted, theyre probably not poor people

2018-05-08 13:37:31 UTC  

Educated ones, do. But, educated ones can also speak English and obtain an even wider amount of information

2018-05-08 14:02:46 UTC  

Can confirm that anyone over the age of 30 cannot even comprehend traditional

2018-05-08 14:03:51 UTC  

<:thonkang:327933449597878312>

2018-05-08 14:04:59 UTC  

might just be a tier 3 thing or would you say it's true for 2nd and 1st tier cities too? @kaetaa

2018-05-08 14:06:45 UTC  

then again, education was quite patchy up until several decades ago so i could believe it

2018-05-08 15:01:49 UTC  

Man in my 2nd tier city they had a hard time understanding simplified

2018-05-08 15:02:01 UTC  

People in China can hardly communicate with each other just speaking Mandarin

2018-05-08 15:06:55 UTC  

really makes one <:chink:323022148870602752>

2018-05-08 15:13:30 UTC  

Well, try to explain westeners that chinese isn't necessarly the same

2018-05-08 15:24:39 UTC  

most older people in guangdong can read traditional

2018-05-08 15:25:11 UTC  

if they struggle, they probably struggle with simplified

2018-05-08 15:26:25 UTC  

simplified is not really a lot simplier since you still end up just trying remembering the word the way it is

2018-05-08 15:26:40 UTC  

年青人都應該識讀,係咪?

2018-05-08 15:28:04 UTC  

younger people just never encounter it

2018-05-08 15:28:16 UTC  

<:thonk:288060975775612929>

2018-05-08 15:29:20 UTC  

by now everyone younger than 30 would never practically used traditional

2018-05-08 15:29:55 UTC  

speaking Cantonese is slightly different

2018-05-08 15:30:54 UTC  

its a bit like Hakka language