No matter what city I feel like

Also: my fiancees parents asked America's literacy rates . I said it's like 99% it's a developed nation and they were like bullshit what about 1990? I said probably the same just a little lower I'd assume

And they started looking up online everything and looking at China's rates

Because while they know how to read, they know a lot of people who either can't read and write, or struggle to read simple sentences

This is people in their 50s

https://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/lit_history.asp not that far off

mere 3-5% illiterates in 1980s

Yeah. I think it's funny that China had to dumb down their language just to get the masses to read and write

And they still can barely do it

So many people I will show an address or something and they look at it and struggle

https://lambda.sx/vdq.png

Like I showed them some really indepth and confusing words

But it's like "Hong Kong street"

Thanks for sharing that

Glad I wasn't talking out of my ass

(That data is from UNESCO if they ask)

They are always trying to question me and prove that China is the best and then get it turned around when they learn the truth

Then a bunch of excuses come out

And they don't trust the data

http://data.uis.unesco.org/

Saying they are racist against Chinese

word of warning tho : unesco is darn timesink with that dataportal

its almost worse than daytripping to wikipedia

Haha

there is data from "repeatters in primary education"

and same data as % and so on

https://lambda.sx/maSs.png

all that data

funfact "goverment expenditure on education as % of GPD" > china is just ------

on hong kong at least its reportted ~3%

@kaetaa The simplification for literacy thing seems pretty bullshit though. Taiwan's literacy rate is still greater than the mainland's iirc. The set of characters that are simplified (and used in day to day life) isn't that large to begin with and if you know trad. or simp., you could learn the other in pretty much no time.

basically, the problem is china

China didn't dumb down their writing system to increase literacy but to prevent information exchange with the ROC

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It's funny because mainland chinks I've spoken to can all read my traditional

granted, theyre probably not poor people

Educated ones, do. But, educated ones can also speak English and obtain an even wider amount of information

Can confirm that anyone over the age of 30 cannot even comprehend traditional

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might just be a tier 3 thing or would you say it's true for 2nd and 1st tier cities too? @kaetaa