Message from @transience

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2018-05-08 11:31:44 UTC  

on hong kong at least its reportted ~3%

2018-05-08 11:54:29 UTC  

@kaetaa The simplification for literacy thing seems pretty bullshit though. Taiwan's literacy rate is still greater than the mainland's iirc. The set of characters that are simplified (and used in day to day life) isn't that large to begin with and if you know trad. or simp., you could learn the other in pretty much no time.

2018-05-08 11:55:02 UTC  

basically, the problem is china

2018-05-08 11:55:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248100475054850050/443380309895938051/autistic.png

2018-05-08 13:33:54 UTC  

China didn't dumb down their writing system to increase literacy but to prevent information exchange with the ROC

2018-05-08 13:35:53 UTC  

<:thvnk:332928260004642827>

2018-05-08 13:36:36 UTC  

It's funny because mainland chinks I've spoken to can all read my traditional

2018-05-08 13:37:10 UTC  

granted, theyre probably not poor people

2018-05-08 13:37:31 UTC  

Educated ones, do. But, educated ones can also speak English and obtain an even wider amount of information

2018-05-08 14:02:46 UTC  

Can confirm that anyone over the age of 30 cannot even comprehend traditional

2018-05-08 14:03:51 UTC  

<:thonkang:327933449597878312>

2018-05-08 14:04:59 UTC  

might just be a tier 3 thing or would you say it's true for 2nd and 1st tier cities too? @kaetaa

2018-05-08 14:06:45 UTC  

then again, education was quite patchy up until several decades ago so i could believe it

2018-05-08 15:01:49 UTC  

Man in my 2nd tier city they had a hard time understanding simplified

2018-05-08 15:02:01 UTC  

People in China can hardly communicate with each other just speaking Mandarin

2018-05-08 15:06:55 UTC  

really makes one <:chink:323022148870602752>

2018-05-08 15:13:30 UTC  

Well, try to explain westeners that chinese isn't necessarly the same

2018-05-08 15:24:39 UTC  

most older people in guangdong can read traditional

2018-05-08 15:25:11 UTC  

if they struggle, they probably struggle with simplified

2018-05-08 15:26:25 UTC  

simplified is not really a lot simplier since you still end up just trying remembering the word the way it is

2018-05-08 15:26:40 UTC  

年青人都應該識讀,係咪?

2018-05-08 15:28:04 UTC  

younger people just never encounter it

2018-05-08 15:28:16 UTC  

<:thonk:288060975775612929>

2018-05-08 15:29:20 UTC  

by now everyone younger than 30 would never practically used traditional

2018-05-08 15:29:55 UTC  

speaking Cantonese is slightly different

2018-05-08 15:30:54 UTC  

its a bit like Hakka language

2018-05-08 15:30:57 UTC  

not even with the prevalence of hk culture?

2018-05-08 15:31:09 UTC  

it's dying

2018-05-08 15:31:40 UTC  

its now a standard to know mandarin

2018-05-08 15:32:38 UTC  

HK had a bunch of Hakka people but they died off

2018-05-08 15:35:48 UTC  

my impression was that local guangdong people used canto with friends and family, mandarin for school and work

2018-05-08 15:35:53 UTC  

does that sound about right?

2018-05-08 22:42:22 UTC  

ye but whenever they write/read it would always be simplified

2018-05-09 12:20:07 UTC  

I'm not knowledgeable on the whole "free Tibet" thing, so I went to some YouTube videos to know more. 80% of the comments are from, what I assume, are trained mainland shitposters

2018-05-09 12:20:29 UTC  

They fucking losers go online just to make China seem good. It was weird cause they all say the same stuff over and over

2018-05-09 12:20:51 UTC  

Comparing tibet to Hawaii and Texas in America. Saying that if people want tibet to go, they should want states to be free too

2018-05-09 12:21:27 UTC  

Or comparing the Tibetans to native Americans. They never had any real arguments, just a lot of "oh yeah? Well what about (your country blah blah)"

2018-05-09 12:21:33 UTC  

It seems like it's always like that

2018-05-09 12:21:37 UTC  

Comparing tibet to Hawaii and Texas in America. Saying that if people want tibet to go, they should want states to be free too

2018-05-09 12:21:52 UTC  

They always deflect instead of saying real stuff. I'm guessing they are taught this

2018-05-09 12:23:05 UTC  

They say "we didn't conquer Tibet. We liberated them from slavery"