Message from @Euro looking for a green card

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2018-12-05 14:44:25 UTC  

I think hormones have more to do with it then nurture.

2018-12-05 14:44:29 UTC  

but then also boys are taught early on that no-one GAF about their feelings and calls for help and to just get on with it

2018-12-05 14:56:07 UTC  

I've bawled my eyes out seeing a random broken barbie doll on the street

2018-12-05 14:56:57 UTC  

Because I just thought of the sad little girl who lost her best friend and is probably heartbroken. I just wanted to find her and give her a hug and tell her it's okay

2018-12-05 14:59:38 UTC  

@Euro looking for a green card Men and women have some different hormones, but i think we all have around the same amount of emotions. I count all emotions in the same class, so say a women can cry more, well maybe a man can get angry more (not 100% true, but just giving an example).
Men are told/discipline far more by nurture to control your emotions so you aren't mean or harm/kill others, and then women are are told their feelings matter like @Agent Smith said, men/boys understand no one cares for their feelings so they learn to deal with them. So yes, women might be more emotional, but it had a lot to do with how we are raised.

2018-12-05 15:03:31 UTC  

I was raised as a boy and that did not mean that being taught that worked. I still cried heavily back when I tried being a stoic as a teen.

Also, I can personally say the difference between mostly testosterone and most estrogen is highly noticeable and has significantly changed how I experience emotions. I think nurture is a very very small aspect of it overall

2018-12-05 15:04:31 UTC  

Especially since in a professional setting, women are far more expected to control their emotions to be taken seriously

2018-12-05 15:05:31 UTC  

I'm having a hard time not laughing at that.

2018-12-05 15:05:58 UTC  

Well, i did smile a bit.

2018-12-05 15:07:52 UTC  

Wait, which part @Shadows

2018-12-05 15:07:57 UTC  

👀

2018-12-05 15:13:33 UTC  

@Shadows I agree with the fact that men are taught more to control their emotions, but women's action are more driven by their emotions.
I probably should have made that more clear.

2018-12-05 15:14:12 UTC  

That's what happens when you are taught your emotions matter more..

2018-12-05 15:15:15 UTC  

@Deleted User If women are more expected to control their emotions, I would say that is for the fact that they let their emotions get in the way of doing their job efficiently.

2018-12-05 15:16:08 UTC  

I fully agree. There is a reason that the expectation is there, thus showing women are more emotional

2018-12-05 15:16:37 UTC  

>That's what happens when you are taught your emotions matter more..

Not at women are leftists

2018-12-05 15:16:55 UTC  

I accept your point of being taught on how to handle you emotions but I would still expect that the majority lies in hormones not in nurture.
Have you ever had a girlfriend that got of the pill?

2018-12-05 15:17:16 UTC  

Probably not a fair argument as those are synthetic hormones.

2018-12-05 15:17:52 UTC  

Which are chemically identical to your own produced ones

2018-12-05 15:18:18 UTC  

So it is a fair argument. Different amounts of hormones change feelings and behavior

2018-12-05 15:18:49 UTC  

Being emotional doesn't necessarily have to do with your political view although they are usually a good predictor. I know conservative women that often react irrationally (emotionally driven) and later can't believe they acted that way.

2018-12-05 15:19:31 UTC  

I'm saying that I never hear women being taught their emotions are more important

2018-12-05 15:19:34 UTC  

That's just silly

2018-12-05 15:20:02 UTC  

I question that synthetic hormones are the same as naturally produced ones. That usually is never the case with any synthetic supplements.

2018-12-05 15:20:21 UTC  

Ok. Shadows. I’m a man. When i control my emotions, it’s usually anger. Like 80% of the time. Sometimes, I can’t cry even if I feel like it and I’m alone. It’s more biology not social conditioning

2018-12-05 15:20:42 UTC  

It's almost all biology

2018-12-05 15:20:45 UTC  

@Deleted User Almost everything you keep saying i find silly, but you are free to do so.

2018-12-05 15:20:47 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-12-05 15:24:20 UTC  

Okay, to be fair the feeling is rather mutual

2018-12-05 15:24:28 UTC  

😘

2018-12-05 15:26:02 UTC  

Looks like we are going to witness a little live presentation of what emotions do to you and how they influence your behaviour. 🍿

2018-12-05 15:29:55 UTC  

@Salacious Swanky Cat I'm glad someone here is reasonable

2018-12-05 15:48:09 UTC  

an interesting video on marketing to women based on their hormones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIywaHerecY&t=1376s

2018-12-05 16:00:35 UTC  

@grant is it about pheromones? I didn’t think there were human ones

2018-12-05 16:02:30 UTC  

There are, they've done studies about how women's are less attracted to male musk if it is too genetically similar to them

2018-12-05 16:03:43 UTC  

She mentions that in the video, but its more about how the hormones in women's cycle affects her behavior. And at the end she explains how this affects how women spend money.

2018-12-05 16:05:32 UTC  

The main take away should be that hormones affect behavior, and there's data to support this.

2018-12-05 18:26:14 UTC  

Yes. I must be high T because I seldom cry and I get pissed really easily. Lol

2018-12-05 18:27:18 UTC  

As a woman (sorry @Shadows ) I get weepy when emotional

2018-12-05 18:27:47 UTC  

There’s also something like ‘I want what I want and I want it NOW’

2018-12-05 18:29:21 UTC  

I don’t like showing emotion though. My dad brought me up that way. So I’d say nurture is a factor.