@Mandatory Carry I'm not trying to minimize the illegal crisis in *any* way but I am not quite following your numbers there. The 1/4 number appears to be illegals as a percentage of drug traffickers, not general population. The 12.2 million illegals would, as you say, make up about 4% of the population, so that would be 1 in 25 of the general population, not 1 in 4.

That said if the number is actually *30 million* as some studies suggest, that is closer to 1 in 10 people.

As far as I'm concerned *either* of those numbers is far too high. But 10% is a truly horrifying number. That is an imminent-overthrow-of-the-native-population kind of number.

That's not to mention that illegals are really only part of the problem. I'd argue that our *legal* immigration rate is also far too high. Something like like *1 in 4* people living in the US were not born here. I've heard 80 million thrown around before. That is not sustainable. It is mass demographic replacement and it will mean a wholesale washing out of the native born culture if it is not reversed and soon.

Dang that's really high

The coastal cities where half the population lives are absolutely swarming with foreigners, Sal.

Not to mention the desert Southwest which has huge quantities of Mexican nationals.

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk

According to this 2016 Census table the official estimate is closer to 45,000,000. But the Census is suspected to vastly underreport illegals so take that for what you will.

80M might be high. But I think 45M is low. Say there are 20M uncounted illegals and you'd get 65M, which is 1 in 5

I don't know why you guys hate brown people so much.

Some numbers edited above btw

Haha I know I am a terrible, terrible person for wanting my children to grow up in a country that speaks my language, shares my culture and has a decent standard of living.

Indeed, so racist of you.

I'd move to Montana but I hear the Cancerfornians are metastasizing there already too.

Also I don't know anybody in Montana.

Really want to get up there someday.

Seems like beautiful country.

You know one person in Montana.

I'm sure you and Matt once.....

We'll always have Montana, Matt.

Oh so Montana is the new "Colorado/Tennessee" place to move for liberals?

Cause that was the same shit with those states at one time

"Oh I hear TN is nice, and safe, and the weather is pretty okay. We should move there since we've fucked up our own state.."

My favorite is when they unironically mention lower taxes.

You *dense* motherfuckers

yuppp

@uncephalized
*"I am not quite following your numbers there. The 1/4 number appears to be illegals as a percentage of drug traffickers, not general population."*
¿Hm? Oh.
¼ of illegal immigrants are involved in the drug trade v. roughly 75%, even though illegals for the best year ***STILL*** only represented about 4% of the population...
*"The 12.2 million illegals would, as you say, make up about 4% of the population, so that would be 1 in 25 of the general population, not 1 in 4."*
Yes. That's what I said.
*"That's not to mention that illegals are really only part of the problem. I'd argue that our legal immigration rate is also far too high."*
I disagree, but that's not terribly relevent, 1-in-4 drug trafficers come from a sub-group that represents 1-in-25 members of the total population.
That ***IS*** horrific numbers.
@Shadows
It's not brown people.
I hate everyone. #NoLivesMatter.

@Salacious Swanky Cat it wasn't harvard, it was yale https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0201193

Also note that DHS estimates only 1 in 4 illegal immigrants get detained. So if 120k got caughg last month DHS would estimate 360k got through. Not sure that number holds up as well in the current atmosphere of encouraged refugee status though

lol

This congressional testimont from 2015 put the estimate at 6 in 10 get through the border undetained https://www.numbersusa.com/news/border-patrol-agent-testifies-senate-committee-indicated-6-10-aliens-cross-border

@Putz Thanks. i'll look at those sources when i get a chance.

The 12m number is bullshit regardless. It basically means that illegal immigration has been at sustainment levels for decades and its achieved that organically

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1147530669083570176

Media taking orders from anarchists on public property 😂

“We love for media to tell the righteous story, but we can’t protect you if you don’t...wet out beaks, so to speak”

And yet the Proud Boys are the fascists

🤔

'Nope, totally not planning any felonies over here, no sirrreee.'