Message from @uncephalized

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2019-08-24 05:24:06 UTC  

How does that work?

2019-08-24 05:24:56 UTC  

I'd guess that there is a population of people that want communism to win large enough that any story is good enough

2019-08-24 05:25:16 UTC  

But why does that become the Narrative?

2019-08-24 05:25:34 UTC  

because there are so many communists?

2019-08-24 05:25:36 UTC  

Why can't the other side do the same thing? Are there simply more of them?

2019-08-24 05:26:02 UTC  

this gets into the study of late stage civilizations

2019-08-24 05:26:17 UTC  

the internal and external proletariat

2019-08-24 05:26:28 UTC  

Hmm. That would actually make sense with some of the more theoretical work I've been doing

2019-08-24 05:26:42 UTC  

Well, 'work'

2019-08-24 05:26:57 UTC  

More like hypothesizing

2019-08-24 05:27:14 UTC  

late stage civilizations cant convince more people to be in favor than there are opposed

2019-08-24 05:27:33 UTC  

those in opposition seek to end the civilization

2019-08-24 05:27:43 UTC  

thats where we are

2019-08-24 05:28:08 UTC  

Ah, so in the absence of a unifying positive vision, destruction becomes the default consensus

2019-08-24 05:28:16 UTC  

yup

2019-08-24 05:28:26 UTC  

thats where we are

2019-08-24 05:28:30 UTC  

Ok, this fits

2019-08-24 05:28:44 UTC  

Chaos is the natural state of the universe.

2019-08-24 05:29:06 UTC  

Life is also a natural state, and it reverses chaos locally.

2019-08-24 05:29:41 UTC  

accepting that we are in the end, and knowing that it will end, the hope is for the better form to take root

2019-08-24 05:29:50 UTC  

But yes, this fits with my understanding of the life cycle of empire/civilization.

2019-08-24 05:30:12 UTC  

I don't see a better form emerging

2019-08-24 05:30:24 UTC  

I see a backwards form growing

2019-08-24 05:30:35 UTC  

My hope is in the scattering of seeds from the fall of the overgrown tree

2019-08-24 05:30:43 UTC  

It's evolution at work.

2019-08-24 05:30:43 UTC  

communism isn't a forward thinking idea

2019-08-24 05:30:50 UTC  

Messy but it has to happen.

2019-08-24 05:30:52 UTC  

its old and backwards

2019-08-24 05:31:04 UTC  

Go chaos, adaption and evolution!

2019-08-24 05:31:05 UTC  

No, communism is tried and tested and it sucks balls.

2019-08-24 05:31:14 UTC  

We need new forms.

2019-08-24 05:31:15 UTC  

they call it progressive, but its as old as can be

2019-08-24 05:31:47 UTC  

I don't like chaos @[DGI]tech but I accept that it is the raw material from which new forms are drawn.

2019-08-24 05:32:38 UTC  

But this is why I want a great number of competing sovereign polities.

2019-08-24 05:32:55 UTC  

I don't even think the better option if a progression

2019-08-24 05:33:03 UTC  

I think we swung past it

2019-08-24 05:33:20 UTC  

tribe life is communal

2019-08-24 05:33:31 UTC  

modern life is individual

2019-08-24 05:33:53 UTC  

we are swinging back because we passed the median

2019-08-24 05:33:58 UTC  

Yes and I believe a return to a family/tribe-centered life is part of the solution.

2019-08-24 05:34:31 UTC  

historically, we went way too far too fast