But yes, this fits with my understanding of the life cycle of empire/civilization.

I don't see a better form emerging

I see a backwards form growing

My hope is in the scattering of seeds from the fall of the overgrown tree

It's evolution at work.

communism isn't a forward thinking idea

Messy but it has to happen.

its old and backwards

Go chaos, adaption and evolution!

No, communism is tried and tested and it sucks balls.

We need new forms.

they call it progressive, but its as old as can be

I don't like chaos @[DGI]tech but I accept that it is the raw material from which new forms are drawn.

But this is why I want a great number of competing sovereign polities.

I don't even think the better option if a progression

I think we swung past it

tribe life is communal

modern life is individual

we are swinging back because we passed the median

Yes and I believe a return to a family/tribe-centered life is part of the solution.

historically, we went way too far too fast

The problem is that you can't *force* a huge number of strangers to treat each other like family.

makes sense to see a hard push back too far

Yes, unfortunately. I look at the amount of community tradition thrown away since my parents were children and it makes me want to puke.

I personally can't speak to this shift due to my age, but don't you find it interesting that seemingly no one speaks to one another on public transportation or largely when out and about?

it depends where you are

Yes. It's unhealthy.

but yes, that is a symptom

Yes.

This is why introversion is cancer.

Introversion is just a personality type.

no

False.

its a symptom

But a society that allows introverts to avoid interaction is unhealthy.

mouse utopia showed us this

Introversion is a mental illness.

introversion is a result

We might be using different definitions of introversion.

let's ask our moms