Message from @Deleted User

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2019-06-05 05:11:17 UTC  

I agree with you that these pride celebrations are taking pride to far to an unhealthy position, and that's why Christians fight against that idea, but this does not devalue its purpose of pride as a human emotion.

2019-06-05 05:11:57 UTC  

Well I recognize that indulging in pride can feel good, but I'm not going to argue that something is good because it makes me feel good.

2019-06-05 05:12:46 UTC  

Neither would i, but i also wouldn't argue the inverse.

2019-06-05 05:13:11 UTC  

What would the inverse be?

2019-06-05 05:13:26 UTC  

Just because something makes you feel good, doesn't make it bad.

2019-06-05 05:13:37 UTC  

Of course not.

2019-06-05 05:14:00 UTC  

I thought the inverse would be if it makes you feel bad it is bad

2019-06-05 05:16:21 UTC  

I see those more as parallel.

2019-06-05 05:16:33 UTC  

Understood

2019-06-05 05:17:23 UTC  

"but this does not devalue its purpose of pride as a human emotion."
I don't think having a purpose equals being virtuous.

2019-06-05 05:18:45 UTC  

Canibalism in Donner pass had a purpose. Didn't make it virtuous.

2019-06-05 05:22:19 UTC  

I happen to think every human emotion a person has is useful, as it helped you learn about yourself and or any problems you might be dealing with (or things you are happy with). The only qualifier i add is learning to use them properly (which isn't easy).

2019-06-05 05:24:00 UTC  

Again, on a utilitarian level, I agree. Many things can be useful, but that doesn't make them virtuous. Maybe we're not working with the same definitions.

2019-06-05 05:24:47 UTC  

Robbery is useful to a hungry man.

2019-06-05 05:25:01 UTC  

Theft is not a virtue.

2019-06-05 05:26:04 UTC  

Your emotions aren't just utilitarian. What you do with them could be thought of as such tho.

2019-06-05 05:26:32 UTC  

Maybe they are.

2019-06-05 05:26:50 UTC  

A discontent with the current state is a negative emotion.

2019-06-05 05:27:10 UTC  

Happiness with the current state is a positive emotion.

2019-06-05 05:27:42 UTC  

Each are oriented towards a desired state, and each respond accordingly to how far you are from the desired state.

2019-06-05 05:28:12 UTC  

Seems like a driving force towards what is desired.

2019-06-05 05:29:32 UTC  

Very utilitarian to me.

2019-06-05 05:34:21 UTC  

If you looked at humans as only binary things would i argue that.

2019-06-05 05:39:32 UTC  

Hmmmmm. Not binary. There are positive emotions. There are negative emotions. What other category of emotions am I forgetting?

2019-06-05 05:45:21 UTC  

mixed emotions

2019-06-05 05:45:47 UTC  

so both positive and negative.

2019-06-05 05:45:52 UTC  

that's still two

2019-06-05 05:46:26 UTC  

Emotions are not like gender, there are more then 2 :)

2019-06-05 05:47:00 UTC  

no donny darko. there are only love and hate. go to your room and im calling your mother

2019-06-05 05:47:19 UTC  

I'm telling dad!

2019-06-05 05:47:38 UTC  

Also, never seen that movie.

2019-06-05 05:47:52 UTC  

aemotions, i.e. asexual, having no emotion

2019-06-05 05:48:03 UTC  

name one

2019-06-05 05:48:36 UTC  

apathy?

2019-06-05 05:48:43 UTC  

that's the absense of emotion

2019-06-05 05:50:12 UTC  

I think a state of ambivalence isn't positive or negative (or mixed).

2019-06-05 05:50:39 UTC  

ambivalence is apathy

2019-06-05 05:50:51 UTC  

it's the lack of caring

2019-06-05 05:51:04 UTC  

the absense of emotion

2019-06-05 05:51:08 UTC  

I don't think its apathy.

2019-06-05 05:51:18 UTC  

ok