@Shadows From a Christian perspective, pride is absolutely not a virtue. Pride is selfish inward worship. That doesn't mean there is no value in fruitful honest work. That doesn't mean you can't find satisfaction in fruitful honest works. Pride goes beyond those things and turns your attention from what you did to what you are. Christians are to be humble, not prideful.

To march around in a parade celebrating yourself for how much better you've behaved than everyone else is completely opposite to how Christians are to behave, and if the straight pride parade isn't a Christian undertaking, then why the hell do they care?

I know what the Christian perspective is, it doesn't mean its 100% accurate. They have rules for general behavior as not everyone knows the limits of human existence and how to learn how to live. Being humble can be a very good thing, it is also possible to be Too humble. And never taking pride in anything will leave a person unfulfilled.

I agree with you that these pride celebrations are taking pride to far to an unhealthy position, and that's why Christians fight against that idea, but this does not devalue its purpose of pride as a human emotion.

Well I recognize that indulging in pride can feel good, but I'm not going to argue that something is good because it makes me feel good.

Neither would i, but i also wouldn't argue the inverse.

What would the inverse be?

Just because something makes you feel good, doesn't make it bad.

Of course not.

I thought the inverse would be if it makes you feel bad it is bad

I see those more as parallel.

Understood

"but this does not devalue its purpose of pride as a human emotion."
I don't think having a purpose equals being virtuous.

Canibalism in Donner pass had a purpose. Didn't make it virtuous.

I happen to think every human emotion a person has is useful, as it helped you learn about yourself and or any problems you might be dealing with (or things you are happy with). The only qualifier i add is learning to use them properly (which isn't easy).

Again, on a utilitarian level, I agree. Many things can be useful, but that doesn't make them virtuous. Maybe we're not working with the same definitions.

Robbery is useful to a hungry man.

Theft is not a virtue.

Your emotions aren't just utilitarian. What you do with them could be thought of as such tho.

Maybe they are.

A discontent with the current state is a negative emotion.

Happiness with the current state is a positive emotion.

Each are oriented towards a desired state, and each respond accordingly to how far you are from the desired state.

Seems like a driving force towards what is desired.

Very utilitarian to me.

If you looked at humans as only binary things would i argue that.

Hmmmmm. Not binary. There are positive emotions. There are negative emotions. What other category of emotions am I forgetting?

mixed emotions

so both positive and negative.

that's still two

Emotions are not like gender, there are more then 2 :)

no donny darko. there are only love and hate. go to your room and im calling your mother

I'm telling dad!

Also, never seen that movie.

aemotions, i.e. asexual, having no emotion

name one

apathy?

that's the absense of emotion

I think a state of ambivalence isn't positive or negative (or mixed).

ambivalence is apathy

it's the lack of caring