Message from @Clive
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I"M lost
I was going to make the point that a bunch of Japanese comics are self contained as well, but then I had names like JoJo and Berserk jump into my mind.
You have Peter Parker as spiderman for the most part since 1962
JoJo is like 8 separate stories with some limited carryover
I dont see what's wrong with 50+ years of peter parker as spiderman except that he hasn't aged 50 years
Berserk is just long hiatus bullshit
The fact that you have multiple writers and arcs for one character over that timeframe, and he's become an archetype
Eventually you will have run out of viable good ideas for a character and will have to delve into shit
It's the same issue with the fact that Bart Simpson has been a fourth grader for over thirty years.
fair enough
Characters need some sense of progression, or they just feel stale. Tbh I could see if SJ influence in comics had a lot to do with their desire to remix and subvert
Because they're honestly just performing milking motions next to a pile of dust at this point otherwise
That's honestly why I think JoJo works. Each character has an arc that completes, and then at most they'll be a supporting character later.
Sometimes they'll even just fucking die
you assume that the writer care about these characters in the same way or as much as the readers/audience. They dont. This a paycheck. They do what gets them the biggest and fastest paycheck. esp in American, I can't speak for weeb shit
also your first point works great for TV shows and films because they (Film > TV) have a definite start and end
Right but we're talking about quality
There are comics with a definitive end as well
DC and Marvel are just the Disney and Universal of comics though
Helps that Marvel is now literally Disney I'm sure
i know, but I'm saying don't expect the writers of anything you like to also like it and to write it as if they were a fan
Hm?
I dont want someone to write something as a fan, I want someone to write something that they're passionate about writing
If I wanted fan driven content I'd read fanfics
thats good to know
i guess my overarching point is, find something you like, and like it while its good, when it starts to suck, walk away and find something else.
That's how I do
Marvel was REALLY good for several decades and then 2012 hit and BAM all shit
most everything from Avengers Disassembled to Civil War I was great, after that it fell off
I blame Carl Manvers
unrelated, i haven't found any fiction that I like in any medium recently except video games
Disagree completely
how recent is recently?
It started with Mark Waid
The daredevil revamp
I've been enjoying the aforementioned Stormlight Archive and the Southern Reach Trilogy
As well as a few manga series
Namely Dungeon Meshi, Vinland Saga and Goblin Slayer
@A. Spader are you talking about the 2011 run? Cuz that's in the same time ballpark. Also mark waid is a baby
Inuyashiki was also real good
Idk whenever he took over daredevil