Eventually you will have run out of viable good ideas for a character and will have to delve into shit

It's the same issue with the fact that Bart Simpson has been a fourth grader for over thirty years.

fair enough

Characters need some sense of progression, or they just feel stale. Tbh I could see if SJ influence in comics had a lot to do with their desire to remix and subvert

Because they're honestly just performing milking motions next to a pile of dust at this point otherwise

That's honestly why I think JoJo works. Each character has an arc that completes, and then at most they'll be a supporting character later.

Sometimes they'll even just fucking die

you assume that the writer care about these characters in the same way or as much as the readers/audience. They dont. This a paycheck. They do what gets them the biggest and fastest paycheck. esp in American, I can't speak for weeb shit

also your first point works great for TV shows and films because they (Film > TV) have a definite start and end

Right but we're talking about quality

There are comics with a definitive end as well

DC and Marvel are just the Disney and Universal of comics though

Helps that Marvel is now literally Disney I'm sure

i know, but I'm saying don't expect the writers of anything you like to also like it and to write it as if they were a fan

Hm?

I dont want someone to write something as a fan, I want someone to write something that they're passionate about writing

If I wanted fan driven content I'd read fanfics

thats good to know

i guess my overarching point is, find something you like, and like it while its good, when it starts to suck, walk away and find something else.

That's how I do

Marvel was REALLY good for several decades and then 2012 hit and BAM all shit

most everything from Avengers Disassembled to Civil War I was great, after that it fell off

I blame Carl Manvers

unrelated, i haven't found any fiction that I like in any medium recently except video games

Disagree completely

how recent is recently?

It started with Mark Waid

The daredevil revamp

I've been enjoying the aforementioned Stormlight Archive and the Southern Reach Trilogy

As well as a few manga series

Namely Dungeon Meshi, Vinland Saga and Goblin Slayer

@A. Spader are you talking about the 2011 run? Cuz that's in the same time ballpark. Also mark waid is a baby

Inuyashiki was also real good

Idk whenever he took over daredevil

2011

Sorry at dinner rn

Then be present with whoever you're with

@Beemann I guess since daredevil TV show and Endgame i haven't watched TV or movies

I think it's just been easier for me to find eastern comics from smaller creators than western ones is the main thing. I like The Crow and Watchmen, Sin City was neat. Just need to find more interesting smaller stories. Self contained

Oh I rarely watch TV or movies regardless. John Wick 3 was good though

and i have some internal stigma against anime and manga, probably due to my porn addiction that was mostly of that ilk, so I don't tread near it