Message from @Clive
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@Bowman151 not that we "shouldn't" cast judgment, we literally can't
eternally speaking
not legally
legally we can
Yeah. I just get tired of the misuse of some of those verses that Christians are not to speak out against sinful acts, loose morals, etc.
you mean, people take the Bible out of CONTEXT
I find it funny when non Christians who’ve barely read the Bible tell Christians how to interpret it. Lol
I"m sure they'd say the same about a Christian reading Dawkins or Pinker or Hawkins
About whenever they comment on Christianity?
no i meant like a Christian reads The God Delusion and projects anti-God rhetoric onto Dawkins
@Salacious Swanky Cat "I find it funny when non Christians who’ve barely read the Bible tell Christians how to interpret it. Lol"
You mean like I was just doing? XD
But he is anti God. @Clive l
@uncephalized you were in the mindset more of asking if that’s what it says.
@uncephalized you said this though so you're not a complete asshole
uncephalizedToday at 4:43 PM
I don't claim to be an expert
Haha I just don't want to live under blasphemy laws is my whole thing.
Also yes Dawkins is literally anti-God. And that is something I *do* know about.
well he's also anti-gods plural and anti-supernatural
Yes, he focuses on the Christian God because that is the dominant religion in his country.
As far as I’ve seen, his arguments are stupid.
Same with the rest of the ‘four horsemen’
he dissed the 4 horsemen
Where's Ben Stiller?
I mean
Sam Harris
@Salacious Swanky Cat i gotta drive home, tag me with more theological yummies if you post some
Whenever moral anti-realists state that Christianity is absolutely immoral then you know they are contracting what they claim to believe and are being intellectually dishonest.
@Clive ok
¿Why does everyone *ignore* the second half?
*Judge not lest ye be judged yourself; And by the measure ye judge so shalt ye be judged.* It's not and never was a commandment against judgement; It was a commandment to judge *fairly and evenly* (and not even necessrily leinently).
nah dude, he saved that adulterer and that means adultery is cool
¿And you know *everything* of her life I suppose?
Dat thief on da cross nex to Gsus, big man say to him "today you will be with me in paradise" Gsus must like stealing and think it okay
@Salacious Swanky Cat I don't remember Dawkins ever claiming that Christianity is absolutely immoral. He thinks gods are not real and that religion leads to bad outcomes.
He does believe that the God of the Bible is a monster but I don't believe he claims it on absolute grounds.
Skeptics never ever claim anything on absolute grounds...ever
Well, it’s pretty much it though. He can’t justify his claim that God is evil nor can he assert that religion leads to bad outcomes without invoking a absolute standard.
Tbh I don't mind atheists as much as skeptics who are constantly skeptical of everything to the point of why bother saying at all?
@Clive
Pretty sure that's not how any of this works, Tim.
@Clive "Skeptics never ever claim anything on absolute grounds...ever"
Would you rather he made himself a hypocrite by claiming an absolute standard that he doesn't believe exists?