That’s how I’ve always seen it.

Doesn’t that more so mean don’t trouble ourselves with questioning someone’s else’s ultimate fate, not excusing us from exercising judgement in a legal sense?

Can you rephrase that? 😐

God is judge, not us, he will judge whether or not someone is "Saved" or whatever, it doesn't matter what we think

Right. I can’t determine whether or not someone goes to heaven.

You can estimate based on the signs of spiritual fruit in their life

I don't claim to be an expert but I've read enough of the Gospels to think that Jesus would not be happy with a rigid legalism around the speech of others.

Hmm... we shouldn’t cast eternal judgment on others (matters of damnation/salvation), but to judge in the context of a society’s established laws isn’t forbidden.

@uncephalized right. That’s what I was saying earlier.

@Bowman151 not that we "shouldn't" cast judgment, we literally can't

eternally speaking

not legally

legally we can

Yeah. I just get tired of the misuse of some of those verses that Christians are not to speak out against sinful acts, loose morals, etc.

you mean, people take the Bible out of CONTEXT

I find it funny when non Christians who’ve barely read the Bible tell Christians how to interpret it. Lol

I"m sure they'd say the same about a Christian reading Dawkins or Pinker or Hawkins

About whenever they comment on Christianity?

no i meant like a Christian reads The God Delusion and projects anti-God rhetoric onto Dawkins

@Salacious Swanky Cat "I find it funny when non Christians who’ve barely read the Bible tell Christians how to interpret it. Lol"

You mean like I was just doing? XD

But he is anti God. @Clive l

@uncephalized you were in the mindset more of asking if that’s what it says.

@uncephalized you said this though so you're not a complete asshole
uncephalizedToday at 4:43 PM
I don't claim to be an expert

Haha I just don't want to live under blasphemy laws is my whole thing.

Also yes Dawkins is literally anti-God. And that is something I *do* know about.

well he's also anti-gods plural and anti-supernatural

Yes, he focuses on the Christian God because that is the dominant religion in his country.

As far as I’ve seen, his arguments are stupid.

Same with the rest of the ‘four horsemen’

OOF

he dissed the 4 horsemen

Where's Ben Stiller?

I mean

Sam Harris

@Salacious Swanky Cat i gotta drive home, tag me with more theological yummies if you post some

Whenever moral anti-realists state that Christianity is absolutely immoral then you know they are contracting what they claim to believe and are being intellectually dishonest.

@Clive ok

¿Why does everyone *ignore* the second half?
*Judge not lest ye be judged yourself; And by the measure ye judge so shalt ye be judged.* It's not and never was a commandment against judgement; It was a commandment to judge *fairly and evenly* (and not even necessrily leinently).

nah dude, he saved that adulterer and that means adultery is cool

¿And you know *everything* of her life I suppose?