Message from @WisdomVendor
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I was being sarcastic, as i am not allowed to disagree.
Anyway, I don't know if we'll be that lucky. The show discussed what will happen if the Dems win, and they'll rig everything to make it happen. Unlikely since so many people are tired of their corruption. But, if they do you'll probably get people to actually leave, forget about protests. Progressives said they'd flee to Canada and mexico. No one did. But, you'll see the rich move over to Switzerland, or Singapore or other countries if the Dem's win
In other words you're being contrarian towards your own opinion because you've imposed some sort of rule on yourself, fair enough, but look at where that got Skag, Youtube won't even ban him
I didn't impose any rules on myself, you did...
Well other then the ones i normally have.
@Shadows if you follow up your statement of "I wholly disagree" with a counterargument/reasons why you disagree, then ppl may not be so quick to call you a contrarian. give them something to work with.
Cam anyone explain to me why Mitch McConnell is a bogeyman to the dems in as few words as possible?
I think they would say he violates/skirts Senate rules to pass Republican bills and abused the rules he now skirts when he was minority leader
Which I can kind of get but they would have to ignore when they did the same thing
call out your own side? never
he's an old white man in charge of something
I think @micamike45 has it. He is evil because he is doing to the Democrats what they did to the Republicans when they were in control. Assuming he's actually doing that, at least. Color me shocked at the realization that people like San Fran Nan and Chucky Schmucky lie.
Because he's cocaine mitch
@IImploreYouToRemoveYourself she would be worse than Tulsi.
Pretty sure most these Dems (Hillary included) would have started WW3 by bombing the shit out of Iran by now
Besides the fact it's impossible to really know that, using that to dismiss an argument deflates debate. If you sense there's a contradiction in someone's views, try and get them on it. Maybe there never was a contradiction
@RoadtoDawn
I've seen him at work. Trust me, he is.
And contrairian means you'll take an oppositional position just to take it.
Then I suppose you're keeping score of every single thing he's ever advocated? It's a prerequisite to have good reason to believe if someone is arguing only to argue. If you see someone contradicting themselves from an earlier argument, ask them about it and maybe you'll score a point if they're going back on what they said arbitrarily
It could be that they disagree with many of your viewpoints, and is the reason you argue a lot
I guess we smoked out the other contrairian...
And no. Of it were "just me" (which is what I assumed at first), it'd STILL be "just me."
There's too much to consider in order to use the word with confidence. And again, it just nukes debate
@RoadtoDawn, @WisdomVendor;
*"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced... [b]ut I know it when I see it ..."*
-Supreme Court Justice Potter STEWART hen asked to define *'obsenity'" in a porn case in 1964.
2A also got gutted in the same decade
@Mandatory Carry I have no doubt that's how you see things, fam
@Big T I was more then happy to follow up with Why i disagreed. But it wasn't even worth it at that point as he already put me in a position that the only possible reason i have to disagree was just do disagree.
@Shadows I would say to follow up with why in the same response. you are not pidgeon-holed into disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, as a response with a why (even after he calls you a contrarian) would still be something worthy of discussing.
@RoadtoDawn lol i see you met Mandatory Carry.
@Big T I'm not going to have a discussion when someone has already defined my position.
but that would be any discussion with someone on the opposing political side lol.
It can't really be helped for many issues, but its only really obvious when people are arguing in bad faith.
Sounds like I missed a goodin Bois. Verdammt
Yeah I think the distinction being made here is that there's a difference between someone assuming your stance, and someone asserting that your disagreement is in bad faith. That said, I read the first accusation of contarianism as a joke. There wasn't any more put into it than a single line, really
There's nothing wrong with contrarianism anyway as long as you're not totally beyond persuasion. Ideas need to be challenged to see how well they stand up.
I don't disagree with that, its just not something i do normally.
(outside of my own opinions)
I think there's definitely a lot of room for Devil's Advocacy as a whole, but people need to engage with ideas in a mature manner overall, with some leeway given for levity
There you go being contrary again @Shadows. Can't you just accept the labels others put on you without protest?!
XD
If only.
ACCEPT YOUR STATION @Shadows
Or perish...💀