that ties into the traditionalist lanes in conservatism

so ye

conserving need not be at odds with change

well it is

and has been throughout american history with reactionary backlash in every rights movement

conserving freedom is a constant fight *for* change to the current system

i think in australia, if you measure the amount of bills passed in the house of reps by the conservative party vs the labour party

its not even close

spader why did rights movements have to drag conservatives every single time?

???

I think you and I are talking past each other as to what conservaitve means

conservatives are very much against social change

they want to preserve the social order

especially Christian conservatives, better than further right ones but still bad

(or go back to its "glory days")

so once more, what is the difference, idealogically, between a conservative and a facist

fascist is overly nationalist

authoritarian

they hide within each other very well

@Green Syndicalism asking @Deleted User

fascists are far more interventionist in the economy

kk

I don't disagree with what Green is saying

But would a fascist vote for a Dem ever?

ask Huey Long

yes

ive seen fascists saying they like tulsi

rly

its because bannon recommended her to trump's cabinet

(probs)

oh

(which would mean breitbart probably gives her favourable press)

So basically in your mind conservatism and facism fall completely within the same road (dare I say, spectrum) and one is merely further along than the other @Deleted User

yea if we want to look at egalitarianism sure

I would say that if we want to look at a very basic line

that seems wildly simplistic

well this is what the left wants the most

it makes no account for *what* is being conserved, only that the conservative wishes to do so

and what conservatives are generally trying to conserve is anti-egalitarian systems

because the idea that an American conservative defending the bill of rights is on the same plane as Ian Smith defending apartheid is insane

read what @O'Possum said