Message from @Green Syndicalism

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2019-08-19 05:47:36 UTC  

According to who?

2019-08-19 05:47:39 UTC  

true *american* conservatism

2019-08-19 05:48:16 UTC  

i dont know any definition of conservatism which has those traits

2019-08-19 05:48:50 UTC  

conservatism, to me, is just traditional western/christian values + parliamentary democracy

2019-08-19 05:49:09 UTC  

this economic free market shit is actually called liberalism/classical liberalism

2019-08-19 05:49:19 UTC  

yeah that's closer to Western Conservatism than American Conservatism

2019-08-19 05:49:25 UTC  

and, as an ideology, these "conservatives" are really just liberal conservatives

2019-08-19 05:49:34 UTC  

^^^^^

2019-08-19 05:49:59 UTC  

who value some of the same things as Western Conservatives

2019-08-19 05:50:13 UTC  

the rule of law, religion, etc

2019-08-19 05:50:28 UTC  

anti change

2019-08-19 05:50:36 UTC  

@Deleted User pretty shallow

2019-08-19 05:50:45 UTC  

also what's your answer to my question?

2019-08-19 05:50:48 UTC  

well conserve?

2019-08-19 05:50:58 UTC  

that ties into the traditionalist lanes in conservatism

2019-08-19 05:51:01 UTC  

so ye

2019-08-19 05:51:08 UTC  

conserving need not be at odds with change

2019-08-19 05:51:12 UTC  

well it is

2019-08-19 05:51:29 UTC  

and has been throughout american history with reactionary backlash in every rights movement

2019-08-19 05:51:29 UTC  

conserving freedom is a constant fight *for* change to the current system

2019-08-19 05:51:49 UTC  

i think in australia, if you measure the amount of bills passed in the house of reps by the conservative party vs the labour party

2019-08-19 05:51:51 UTC  

its not even close

2019-08-19 05:52:52 UTC  

spader why did rights movements have to drag conservatives every single time?

2019-08-19 05:53:08 UTC  

???

2019-08-19 05:53:30 UTC  

I think you and I are talking past each other as to what conservaitve means

2019-08-19 05:53:34 UTC  

conservatives are very much against social change

2019-08-19 05:53:39 UTC  

they want to preserve the social order

2019-08-19 05:53:59 UTC  

especially Christian conservatives, better than further right ones but still bad

2019-08-19 05:54:02 UTC  

(or go back to its "glory days")

2019-08-19 05:54:04 UTC  

so once more, what is the difference, idealogically, between a conservative and a facist

2019-08-19 05:54:18 UTC  

fascist is overly nationalist

2019-08-19 05:54:21 UTC  

authoritarian

2019-08-19 05:54:33 UTC  

they hide within each other very well

2019-08-19 05:54:33 UTC  
2019-08-19 05:54:36 UTC  

fascists are far more interventionist in the economy

2019-08-19 05:54:42 UTC  

kk

2019-08-19 05:54:50 UTC  

I don't disagree with what Green is saying

2019-08-19 05:55:07 UTC  

But would a fascist vote for a Dem ever?

2019-08-19 05:55:21 UTC  

ask Huey Long

2019-08-19 05:55:25 UTC  

yes

2019-08-19 05:55:34 UTC  

ive seen fascists saying they like tulsi