my thought processes are influenced by consequences, you have admitted that yours arent

sure they are

OH SHIT

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no, I have admitted that I am willing to accept some negative consequences in favor of more important positive ones

also known as "compromise"

you didnt say you thought you would get positive consequences at all, you just added that on right now you snake

hahaha

I remember saying earlier most conservatives have never touched philosophy all be it anecdotal it just keeps happening

I told you what my positive consequence was

liberty

no you didnt

freedom from authoritarian control over my actions and everyone else's

OK, if I failed to do so earlier, I'm doing so now.

uncephalizedToday at 4:48 PM
Ignoring is not the same as accepting as an unfortunate consequence of a more fundamental principle that in fact protects the rights of everyone, including the 'oppressed class'

I thought that was clear enough, but I can clarify if you wish.

you justified ignoring the bad consequences in order to institute a principle

its very clear

@Green Syndicalism Have you considered the consequences of the rights you are trying to institute?

we have already seen those consequences dude

I expressed a preference for holding everyone to the same universal standard rather than instituting inequality under the law based on protected class, sure.

we have protected classes

We also have a far more overreaching, bloated police state than we had before they were created. Coincidence?

the consequences are:
blacks are closing IQ/education gaps
they've closed some of the wealth gap

*"I remember saying earlier most conservatives have never touched philosophy all be it anecdotal it just keeps happening"*

@uncephalized i would say coincidence actually, yes

what would a leftist argument be without rampant arrogance

Then I would say you are blind.

because the police state came about through other legislation. nothing to do with protected classes

it came about because of the drug war and 9/11

Oh you sweet summer child.

so yea, complete coincidence

the fact you conflate those things shows me you struggle to see causation over correlations

Your policies result in the eroding of liberty for people not of the protected classes. Aren't you then anti-consequentialist?

Also I'm pretty sure most or all of the wealth and education gaps were closing *before* the Civil Rights Act. I'd have to check though.

youre the kinda guy who is like "it rains whenever i hit a jackpot! hence i will only try lotto when it rains!"

gender is protected? yuma

It shouldn't.

no because the consequences of race and identity discrimination is far worse than taking away the freedom to discriminate for no good reason @yuma_8

<@145051506289147905> That is your opinion. We believe that the loss of freedom is far worse than any discrimination that may result.

yea and i think thats delusional