Message from @Beemann
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>get money out of politics
So we abolish government salaries and pensions too yeah?
another extremely dense take
no u
how can you say these things without giggling to yourself
"If I say ur dum that makes me right"
Why is nuclear disincentivized and how do we remove that incentive structure
but no, the government can do things that the people dont want them to do and this happens ALL THE TIME
How can you say 'take money out of politics' without realizing all dimensions of so-called money in politics
It happens when they can get away with it
I really don't know
the difference is what types of things the government does against the people's wishes
If they don't cowtow on certain issues, people will vote in someone else
Right
And it only matters when you don't like it
Yes?
Which is still a perverse incentive structure
Can you see how utterly authoritarian your take is?
dude congress has a 15% approval rating
yet dems and repubs get all the vote still
so your thesis is false
they keep voting for the same idiots
thats my point
Right, so how do you fix that system? Money out of politics doesn't solve the whole problem
people have a limited perception on alternatives, so they vote against their interests time and time again for the same shit parties
Yes
money out of politics is the main barrier dude
its not the whole thing
but its *THE* incentive structure which makes the most difference
And getting a sweetheart deal upon retirement isn't an incentive O__o?
political campaigns have to be publically funded 100%
I mean
ban that shit dude
unfunded liabilities make up most of the debt
_government_ unfunded liabilities
No, lack of civic knowledge and general apathy is the main problem. Lack of an American social foundation on a community level is fucking your country m8
So we should abolish that yeah?
i dont see govt unfunded liabilities plays into this argument at all
why not? I thought you want to get rid of money in politics
yea americans have social problems, but part of fixing them is getting money out of politics so that political incentives align better with the populace
It won't go that way, it has to go the other way around