Message from @Green Syndicalism
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the difference is what types of things the government does against the people's wishes
If they don't cowtow on certain issues, people will vote in someone else
Right
And it only matters when you don't like it
Yes?
Which is still a perverse incentive structure
Can you see how utterly authoritarian your take is?
dude congress has a 15% approval rating
yet dems and repubs get all the vote still
so your thesis is false
Doesn't matter. Only matters how they fare compared to the opposition
they keep voting for the same idiots
thats my point
Right, so how do you fix that system? Money out of politics doesn't solve the whole problem
people have a limited perception on alternatives, so they vote against their interests time and time again for the same shit parties
Yes
money out of politics is the main barrier dude
its not the whole thing
but its *THE* incentive structure which makes the most difference
And getting a sweetheart deal upon retirement isn't an incentive O__o?
I mean
ban that shit dude
unfunded liabilities make up most of the debt
_government_ unfunded liabilities
No, lack of civic knowledge and general apathy is the main problem. Lack of an American social foundation on a community level is fucking your country m8
So we should abolish that yeah?
i dont see govt unfunded liabilities plays into this argument at all
why not? I thought you want to get rid of money in politics
yea americans have social problems, but part of fixing them is getting money out of politics so that political incentives align better with the populace
It won't go that way, it has to go the other way around
wtf are you talking about dude
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money in politics refers to DONATIONS
corporations and super pacs
But being a public servant should not be incentivized by having handsome salaries and retirement pensions
You need informative, trustworthy institutions and networks of voters
Higher and more comprehensive civic engagement
So
You want money out of politics?
Or you're just trading colours