So we abolish government salaries and pensions too yeah?

another extremely dense take

no u

how can you say these things without giggling to yourself

"If I say ur dum that makes me right"
Why is nuclear disincentivized and how do we remove that incentive structure

but no, the government can do things that the people dont want them to do and this happens ALL THE TIME

How can you say 'take money out of politics' without realizing all dimensions of so-called money in politics

It happens when they can get away with it

I really don't know

the difference is what types of things the government does against the people's wishes

If they don't cowtow on certain issues, people will vote in someone else

Right

And it only matters when you don't like it

Yes?

Which is still a perverse incentive structure

Can you see how utterly authoritarian your take is?

dude congress has a 15% approval rating

yet dems and repubs get all the vote still

so your thesis is false

Doesn't matter. Only matters how they fare compared to the opposition

they keep voting for the same idiots

thats my point

Right, so how do you fix that system? Money out of politics doesn't solve the whole problem

people have a limited perception on alternatives, so they vote against their interests time and time again for the same shit parties

Yes

money out of politics is the main barrier dude

its not the whole thing

but its *THE* incentive structure which makes the most difference

And getting a sweetheart deal upon retirement isn't an incentive O__o?

political campaigns have to be publically funded 100%

I mean

ban that shit dude

unfunded liabilities make up most of the debt

_government_ unfunded liabilities

No, lack of civic knowledge and general apathy is the main problem. Lack of an American social foundation on a community level is fucking your country m8

So we should abolish that yeah?

i dont see govt unfunded liabilities plays into this argument at all

why not? I thought you want to get rid of money in politics

yea americans have social problems, but part of fixing them is getting money out of politics so that political incentives align better with the populace

It won't go that way, it has to go the other way around

wtf are you talking about dude