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2019-08-20 01:14:10 UTC  

Yes?

2019-08-20 01:14:11 UTC  

Which is still a perverse incentive structure

2019-08-20 01:14:18 UTC  

Can you see how utterly authoritarian your take is?

2019-08-20 01:14:22 UTC  

dude congress has a 15% approval rating

2019-08-20 01:14:30 UTC  

yet dems and repubs get all the vote still

2019-08-20 01:14:34 UTC  

so your thesis is false

2019-08-20 01:14:37 UTC  

Doesn't matter. Only matters how they fare compared to the opposition

2019-08-20 01:14:38 UTC  

they keep voting for the same idiots

2019-08-20 01:15:05 UTC  

thats my point

2019-08-20 01:15:25 UTC  

Right, so how do you fix that system? Money out of politics doesn't solve the whole problem

2019-08-20 01:15:30 UTC  

people have a limited perception on alternatives, so they vote against their interests time and time again for the same shit parties

2019-08-20 01:15:36 UTC  

Yes

2019-08-20 01:15:46 UTC  

money out of politics is the main barrier dude

2019-08-20 01:15:49 UTC  

its not the whole thing

2019-08-20 01:16:00 UTC  

but its *THE* incentive structure which makes the most difference

2019-08-20 01:16:27 UTC  

And getting a sweetheart deal upon retirement isn't an incentive O__o?

2019-08-20 01:16:29 UTC  

political campaigns have to be publically funded 100%

2019-08-20 01:16:32 UTC  

I mean

2019-08-20 01:16:36 UTC  

ban that shit dude

2019-08-20 01:16:39 UTC  

unfunded liabilities make up most of the debt

2019-08-20 01:16:47 UTC  

_government_ unfunded liabilities

2019-08-20 01:16:49 UTC  

No, lack of civic knowledge and general apathy is the main problem. Lack of an American social foundation on a community level is fucking your country m8

2019-08-20 01:16:52 UTC  

So we should abolish that yeah?

2019-08-20 01:17:12 UTC  

i dont see govt unfunded liabilities plays into this argument at all

2019-08-20 01:17:33 UTC  

why not? I thought you want to get rid of money in politics

2019-08-20 01:17:47 UTC  

yea americans have social problems, but part of fixing them is getting money out of politics so that political incentives align better with the populace

2019-08-20 01:18:01 UTC  

It won't go that way, it has to go the other way around

2019-08-20 01:18:02 UTC  

wtf are you talking about dude

2019-08-20 01:18:05 UTC  

🍿

2019-08-20 01:18:06 UTC  

money in politics refers to DONATIONS

2019-08-20 01:18:16 UTC  

corporations and super pacs

2019-08-20 01:18:24 UTC  

But being a public servant should not be incentivized by having handsome salaries and retirement pensions

2019-08-20 01:18:24 UTC  

You need informative, trustworthy institutions and networks of voters

2019-08-20 01:18:31 UTC  

Higher and more comprehensive civic engagement

2019-08-20 01:18:32 UTC  

So

2019-08-20 01:18:39 UTC  

You want money out of politics?

2019-08-20 01:18:40 UTC  

Or you're just trading colours

2019-08-20 01:18:47 UTC  

right

2019-08-20 01:18:48 UTC  

No u

2019-08-20 01:18:50 UTC  

being a public servant should be incentivised by money, but it shouldnt be tied to corporate wishlists as it is now

2019-08-20 01:18:55 UTC  

No