Message from @Fondboy

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2019-09-05 01:07:23 UTC  

like expensive car price expensive

2019-09-05 03:07:37 UTC  

@SapperOne here shows the use of the *political,* not technical, term machinegun.

2019-09-05 03:08:23 UTC  

You're one to talk

2019-09-05 03:09:30 UTC  

Yes.
I am. I *litterally* am.

2019-09-05 03:19:21 UTC  

*ON A RELATED NOTE...* 😈😈😈😈
"One should always be wary of a scientist speaking out of his narrow field, or those invoking their name outside their fields. Scientists are human too, and are just as prone to cling to 'causes', just or frivolous, as the rest of our species."
-Dr. Peter WYKOFF WALKER, 1997 (Peter is an aerospace engineer for JPL iirc).
“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.”
-Dr. Michael CRICHTON, MD (RIP)
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."
-François-Marie AROUET, 1765

2019-09-05 03:22:19 UTC  

@Fondboy are you saying that mental wellbeing is not a component of wellbeing?

2019-09-05 03:22:41 UTC  

did you listen to my call in?

2019-09-05 03:22:51 UTC  

No, I was commuting

2019-09-05 03:23:03 UTC  

she told me that surveys of well being are not as accurate as suicide rates

2019-09-05 03:23:08 UTC  

for well being

2019-09-05 03:23:14 UTC  

it is a component

2019-09-05 03:23:47 UTC  

but a horrible predictor

2019-09-05 03:23:51 UTC  

I would say that if you say you're doing fine and kill yourself, you probably werent doing so fine. It depends on what the data shows

2019-09-05 03:24:15 UTC  

this data shows an increase of well being

2019-09-05 03:24:33 UTC  

a meta analysis of 73 studies

2019-09-05 03:24:51 UTC  

she hand waved it

2019-09-05 03:26:54 UTC  

Because it's not a neutral source

2019-09-05 03:27:11 UTC  

uh

2019-09-05 03:27:27 UTC  

"The What We Know Project has recently moved to the Center for the Study of Inequality at Cornell University. We are an online research portal that marks a path-breaking convergence of scholarship, public policy and new media technology. Focusing on public policy debates around inequality"

2019-09-05 03:27:30 UTC  

Do you have studies made by computers?

2019-09-05 03:27:45 UTC  

They had their conclusion before their 'metastudy'

2019-09-05 03:28:15 UTC  

And since a metastudy is making a claim about what the research shows, not actual research...

2019-09-05 03:28:28 UTC  

yeah all of those are summaries

2019-09-05 03:31:42 UTC  

@JonPizza Well, the accuracy of a meta study is dependent on the accuracy of all the other studies cited. If each of the 73 studies cited are evaluated and show signs of being fundamentally flawed, then the conclusion of the meta study is completely bunk

2019-09-05 03:31:50 UTC  

Are you looking at these summaries? First one 'survey via the Internet and on paper", second 'non randomized sample' third '22 participants'

2019-09-05 03:32:29 UTC  

Based on Fondest's history of misinterpreting studies and general sleazyness, I doubt this meta study is actually accurate.

2019-09-05 03:33:07 UTC  

'metastudies' aren't more than whatever the person doing it wants to say, they picked what went in after all

2019-09-05 03:33:32 UTC  

It's as unscientific as you get because you start with the conclusion, not the question

2019-09-05 03:34:03 UTC  

No. Not always. Meta studies can be useful to compile the results of studies.

2019-09-05 03:34:36 UTC  

Nobody who understands what's going on claims that a meta study is deliberately a scientific study.

2019-09-05 03:34:52 UTC  

Also my study doesn't matter. Actions are morally neutral and you need to give a reason why something is bad, so she had burden of proof for suicide rates which I instantly explained was miscited

2019-09-05 03:35:46 UTC  

Oh please. shifting the goal posts

2019-09-05 03:35:49 UTC  

>actions are morally neutral

2019-09-05 03:36:00 UTC  

Thoughts on Hate crimes then?

2019-09-05 03:36:06 UTC  

Yeah, I can't grok it

2019-09-05 03:36:41 UTC  

Also, how often does 'was a transgender' get checked in the suicide report

2019-09-05 03:36:49 UTC  

Can anyone really have this number?

2019-09-05 03:37:10 UTC  

The citation you give is actually like 96 citations, of which I've already found a handful that dont support the claims made by the metastudy, but much of the info is paywalled

2019-09-05 03:37:25 UTC  

The metastudy doesn't even give a wellbeing definition

2019-09-05 03:37:32 UTC  

The burden of proof is on the people advocating irreversible surgeries