or more clearly wrong I guess

Nuking a country that was gonna nuke you doesn't seem like it's gonna lose anyone you already had in your camp

mmmm

you'd have to prove they were going to nuke you

idk

prove to who?

the UN?

the body that spends equal time condemning israel and the rest of the world?

public opinion I guess

no I think reasonable suspision is all they;d need to satasfy their allies

I'm not saying that's good but by and large with Israel the enemy and ally camps are already so firmly entrenched I doubt them nuking Iran makes much of a difference

Just keep in mind: Iran's been in a state of war with the US since 1979

should have turned the place into a glass carpark years ago

Making the case that Iran was going to nuke them first gets pretty easy when you look at all the rhetoric from Iran about wiping Israel off the map.

This may just be me

but when I was going through basic, one of the first things you get told is

if the guy looking to kill you repetitively says he's gonna kill you, it's better if you believe him

the best middle east foreign policy is to say "do whatever the fuck you want to each other, we don't care, unless you screw with us in which case we will wipe you off the face of the earth"

but alas that hasn't been true of us foreign policy since the 1800s

She would probably get overruled less than Bolton did. Time for Trump to live up to his anti war retoric

@A. Spader I generally agree

but sadly I don't think that doctrine can be kept to even in the best of times

There are some things, imo, which are decidedly in our (ie the West's) interests which justify at least staying there

I'm not sure I agree

Pretty much anything we "need" to do in the middle east Israel will do for us if we leave

Israel is what I meant by "staying there" lol

why I used 'the West' as a whole : P

Oh

Then yeah I'm with ya

for me, if the rest of western civ would stop being such pussies about the issue Israel would have a freer hand in dealing with shit

This works out for the muh j00s guys as well

Why spend our blood and treasure when the Jews can use theirs?

The only thing you need to do, really, is allow them to go wild and hold back "international" (ie, Muslim) condemnation

I'm hoping the move to nuclear would progress quicker

would make oil a redundant resource

For a moment there I thought you meant that you hoped the move to nuke Iran would go quicker

lmao

Well, one can definitely read it as that, and I wouldn't disagree, tbh : P

I had the "geez!" sounder and everything

I'd prefer if the nuke came from Eretz Yisrael and not the United States

@Fondboy
*"The USA can keep Iran harmless (with nukes at least)..."*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm not sure which is funnier, that you said it or that you meant it...

@Salacious Swanky Cat
Well, you won't mind in the least that Barrack gave Iran the bomb.