Message from @Just for youtube [NB1]
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No, merely that you can be sinning or sinful and if you asked forgiveness before death, that's what counts
Following my evangelical tradition I know that in the day i Die I will not be blameless. Christ willl. And he will take my place in the judgement day.
I'm at work I'll have to come back to this
The cananites didn't have a chance...
What if you lived before Christ came? Or never accepted him or was baptized?
Why is it wrong for God to send people to hell?
Because you're creating a child that will grow up in a culture that inevitably will cause them to sin, and then sending them to suffer eternally.
Might as well throw them straight into hell at that point.
Why even bother creating them on Earth
what i did mean with why is @Beemann is there are atributes of God that he cannot change.
That’s not an argument
Plus close to 100% of society never accepted Christ in their life.
So what?
Okay yeah. If I create a living being and torture it eternally, I think that would make me a shitty creator.
Why is God obligated to catering to your sensibilities
If you don't think that's bad, we'll never agree.
"do unto others as you would have done into you"
So God is immoral for reasons you can’t justify
I think guaranteed eternal suffering contradicts that.
Unless God is a masochist.
God is omnipotent, how are there things he cannot change?
short of it being a contradictory request, it's within his power, no?
If you were born a cananite. You are guaranteed to have been killed by the Jews before you could repent or accept Christ.
"0 iThe times of ignorance jGod overlooked, but know he lcommands all people everywhere to repent, "acts 17:30
Or just die without ever hearing about him.
sorry for the footnotes
So then there is repentance after death?
Okay so your point is God can't exist because people get tortured at birth?
No
Because people die before they can do what he says?
Just not the Nicene Creed's definition of God.
Pretty much any offshoot of Catholicism I cannot get behind.
eternal suffering is the fate of chosing to be far from God,
It's not His punishment
When do you choose?
Does it have to be in this life?
Yes
Then the cananites were never given that choice
unless you believe in purgatory
evangelical denominations do not