Message from @Just for youtube [NB1]

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2019-10-06 21:16:51 UTC  

No, merely that you can be sinning or sinful and if you asked forgiveness before death, that's what counts

2019-10-06 21:17:07 UTC  

Following my evangelical tradition I know that in the day i Die I will not be blameless. Christ willl. And he will take my place in the judgement day.

2019-10-06 21:17:12 UTC  

I'm at work I'll have to come back to this

2019-10-06 21:17:23 UTC  

The cananites didn't have a chance...

2019-10-06 21:17:47 UTC  

What if you lived before Christ came? Or never accepted him or was baptized?

2019-10-06 21:18:52 UTC  

Why is it wrong for God to send people to hell?

2019-10-06 21:19:31 UTC  

Because you're creating a child that will grow up in a culture that inevitably will cause them to sin, and then sending them to suffer eternally.

2019-10-06 21:19:44 UTC  

Might as well throw them straight into hell at that point.

2019-10-06 21:19:57 UTC  

Why even bother creating them on Earth

2019-10-06 21:20:06 UTC  

what i did mean with why is @Beemann is there are atributes of God that he cannot change.

2019-10-06 21:20:13 UTC  

That’s not an argument

2019-10-06 21:20:16 UTC  

Plus close to 100% of society never accepted Christ in their life.

2019-10-06 21:20:22 UTC  

So what?

2019-10-06 21:20:38 UTC  

Okay yeah. If I create a living being and torture it eternally, I think that would make me a shitty creator.

2019-10-06 21:20:46 UTC  

Why is God obligated to catering to your sensibilities

2019-10-06 21:20:50 UTC  

If you don't think that's bad, we'll never agree.

2019-10-06 21:21:11 UTC  

"do unto others as you would have done into you"

2019-10-06 21:21:11 UTC  

So God is immoral for reasons you can’t justify

2019-10-06 21:21:29 UTC  

I think guaranteed eternal suffering contradicts that.

2019-10-06 21:21:35 UTC  

Unless God is a masochist.

2019-10-06 21:22:04 UTC  

Why is it guaranteed

2019-10-06 21:22:18 UTC  

God is omnipotent, how are there things he cannot change?

2019-10-06 21:22:36 UTC  

short of it being a contradictory request, it's within his power, no?

2019-10-06 21:22:36 UTC  

If you were born a cananite. You are guaranteed to have been killed by the Jews before you could repent or accept Christ.

2019-10-06 21:22:55 UTC  

"0 iThe times of ignorance jGod overlooked, but know he lcommands all people everywhere to repent, "acts 17:30

2019-10-06 21:22:56 UTC  

Or just die without ever hearing about him.

2019-10-06 21:23:09 UTC  

sorry for the footnotes

2019-10-06 21:23:15 UTC  

So then there is repentance after death?

2019-10-06 21:23:21 UTC  

Okay so your point is God can't exist because people get tortured at birth?

2019-10-06 21:23:26 UTC  

No

2019-10-06 21:23:28 UTC  

Because people die before they can do what he says?

2019-10-06 21:23:40 UTC  

Just not the Nicene Creed's definition of God.

2019-10-06 21:24:07 UTC  

Pretty much any offshoot of Catholicism I cannot get behind.

2019-10-06 21:25:01 UTC  

eternal suffering is the fate of chosing to be far from God,

2019-10-06 21:25:21 UTC  

It's not His punishment

2019-10-06 21:25:43 UTC  

When do you choose?

2019-10-06 21:25:48 UTC  

Does it have to be in this life?

2019-10-06 21:25:53 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-06 21:26:05 UTC  

Then the cananites were never given that choice

2019-10-06 21:26:21 UTC  

unless you believe in purgatory

2019-10-06 21:26:39 UTC  

evangelical denominations do not