Message from @DJ_Anuz

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2019-10-06 21:10:13 UTC  

It's the things prior to Christ coming that are the means I can't justify.

2019-10-06 21:10:55 UTC  

It's only moving the pieces arround

2019-10-06 21:11:46 UTC  

I don't believe that any God that views it's sentient creations as pieces to move around is worthy of my worship, nor does he love his creations.

2019-10-06 21:11:58 UTC  

I wouldn't harm my children just because they disobey me.

2019-10-06 21:14:01 UTC  

Yes. but your children are not condemned to eternal damnation if you don't do nothing. God child were

2019-10-06 21:14:36 UTC  

which is a situation He created, ultimately

2019-10-06 21:14:51 UTC  

why?

2019-10-06 21:14:51 UTC  

According to modern Christian tenants, (outside of Mormons that I'm aware of) anyone killed in their sins are cut off from repentance.

2019-10-06 21:15:05 UTC  

what do you mean why?

2019-10-06 21:15:20 UTC  

Killing the cananites was condemning them to eternal damnation with no chance for redemption, even though they were probably products of their cultures.

2019-10-06 21:15:31 UTC  

@DJ_Anuz incorrect

2019-10-06 21:15:42 UTC  

That's not quite how that works

2019-10-06 21:16:11 UTC  

So there is repentance after death @A. Spader ?

2019-10-06 21:16:51 UTC  

No, merely that you can be sinning or sinful and if you asked forgiveness before death, that's what counts

2019-10-06 21:17:07 UTC  

Following my evangelical tradition I know that in the day i Die I will not be blameless. Christ willl. And he will take my place in the judgement day.

2019-10-06 21:17:12 UTC  

I'm at work I'll have to come back to this

2019-10-06 21:17:23 UTC  

The cananites didn't have a chance...

2019-10-06 21:17:47 UTC  

What if you lived before Christ came? Or never accepted him or was baptized?

2019-10-06 21:18:52 UTC  

Why is it wrong for God to send people to hell?

2019-10-06 21:19:31 UTC  

Because you're creating a child that will grow up in a culture that inevitably will cause them to sin, and then sending them to suffer eternally.

2019-10-06 21:19:44 UTC  

Might as well throw them straight into hell at that point.

2019-10-06 21:19:57 UTC  

Why even bother creating them on Earth

2019-10-06 21:20:06 UTC  

what i did mean with why is @Beemann is there are atributes of God that he cannot change.

2019-10-06 21:20:13 UTC  

That’s not an argument

2019-10-06 21:20:16 UTC  

Plus close to 100% of society never accepted Christ in their life.

2019-10-06 21:20:22 UTC  

So what?

2019-10-06 21:20:38 UTC  

Okay yeah. If I create a living being and torture it eternally, I think that would make me a shitty creator.

2019-10-06 21:20:46 UTC  

Why is God obligated to catering to your sensibilities

2019-10-06 21:20:50 UTC  

If you don't think that's bad, we'll never agree.

2019-10-06 21:21:11 UTC  

"do unto others as you would have done into you"

2019-10-06 21:21:11 UTC  

So God is immoral for reasons you can’t justify

2019-10-06 21:21:29 UTC  

I think guaranteed eternal suffering contradicts that.

2019-10-06 21:21:35 UTC  

Unless God is a masochist.

2019-10-06 21:22:04 UTC  

Why is it guaranteed

2019-10-06 21:22:18 UTC  

God is omnipotent, how are there things he cannot change?

2019-10-06 21:22:36 UTC  

short of it being a contradictory request, it's within his power, no?

2019-10-06 21:22:36 UTC  

If you were born a cananite. You are guaranteed to have been killed by the Jews before you could repent or accept Christ.

2019-10-06 21:22:55 UTC  

"0 iThe times of ignorance jGod overlooked, but know he lcommands all people everywhere to repent, "acts 17:30

2019-10-06 21:22:56 UTC  

Or just die without ever hearing about him.

2019-10-06 21:23:09 UTC  

sorry for the footnotes

2019-10-06 21:23:15 UTC  

So then there is repentance after death?