Message from @Gunner Fox

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2019-10-08 22:30:25 UTC  

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't consider the ramifications of creating an unhackable sentient AI that can self replicate and consume biomass as fuel.

2019-10-08 22:30:52 UTC  

And science fiction can prime your mind to think about the possible scenarios

2019-10-08 22:30:58 UTC  

@ThePortugueseGuy which depends on belief of that claim, which rests on a layer of assumptions

@DJ_Anuz unhackable is a fantasy

2019-10-08 22:31:25 UTC  

@DJ_Anuz it d3pends on if the universe is capable of noticing I guess 😅

2019-10-08 22:31:25 UTC  

If it were actively changing its own programming it'd probably be pretty difficult to hack

2019-10-08 22:31:27 UTC  

@Beemann they weren't unhackable, true. But they were unhackable with current technology and the time they had available.

2019-10-08 22:32:23 UTC  

So video where even today we can make anything in a movie would always be a proof?

2019-10-08 22:32:26 UTC  

Hades is by far a much bigger threat than the faro plague though. He's actually sentient. The plague was just a mindless swarm, though it did have some pretty advanced self learning.

2019-10-08 22:32:44 UTC  

No one is in here raising the death

2019-10-08 22:32:48 UTC  

Video from before we had video would be proof

2019-10-08 22:32:59 UTC  

There's no proof that anyone raised the dead

2019-10-08 22:33:23 UTC  

Also Kurzweil has something like 80% plus correct predictions about the future of technology despite being a science fiction author so it might behoove you to at least take a gander at what science fiction predicts might be coming up

2019-10-08 22:33:49 UTC  

And if you believe the apostles witnesses are proof enough, then you need to believe the Mormon witnesses are enough proof that they saw the gold plates the Book Of Mormon supposedly came from.

2019-10-08 22:33:59 UTC  

If we opened up a sealed Egyptian tomb and found a fucking VHS that we could carbon date back to the appropriate era, that would be a thing

2019-10-08 22:34:00 UTC  

If he had invented the television he could invent premiere and skip his own dieing

2019-10-08 22:34:39 UTC  

If the Bible mentioned a confirmable scientific discovery and was consistent with other later discoveries, that would lend greater credibility

2019-10-08 22:35:46 UTC  

@Beemann does carbon dating work on plastics?

2019-10-08 22:36:03 UTC  

Wait duh.

2019-10-08 22:36:13 UTC  

There's tons of carbon in plastic xD

2019-10-08 22:36:58 UTC  

Ray Kurzweil is an inventor and writes nonfiction. Is there another Kurzweil?

2019-10-08 22:37:18 UTC  

Isn't carbon dating less effective than we thought?

2019-10-08 22:37:29 UTC  

Like most things it isn't perfect

2019-10-08 22:37:40 UTC  

@Gunner Fox depends on how far back you're going to look.

2019-10-08 22:38:00 UTC  

All you'd need to confirm is that it's older than VHS

2019-10-08 22:38:14 UTC  

For instance, something that's 1000 years old and 10000 years old are much more identifiable than something 1billion years old, and 2 billion years old.

2019-10-08 22:38:23 UTC  

Ye das the kurzweil, he also writes science fiction unless I'm wrong

2019-10-08 22:38:36 UTC  

@Beemann but the vhs tapes would have been wiped by then.

2019-10-08 22:39:24 UTC  

Also the environment can effect the carbon dating process.

2019-10-08 22:39:41 UTC  

He wrote one work of fiction in 2019 with two companion pieces. It seems to be a Superhero thing

2019-10-08 22:39:51 UTC  

A divine VHS need never be wiped

2019-10-08 22:41:35 UTC  

Why can't it be something cooler, like a holographicndevice built into an obelisk?

2019-10-08 22:41:36 UTC  

>God creates eternal proof of Christ's death and resurrection
>it's on laserdisk

2019-10-08 22:41:42 UTC  

Who cares if it's impractical.

2019-10-08 22:42:57 UTC  

@Beemann So my steel man argument fails because God didn't write it on a disk?

2019-10-08 22:43:22 UTC  

No, the argument is that God jumped through hoops for maximum impact, but it wasn't maximum impact at all

2019-10-08 22:43:28 UTC  

And it's your only objection. I can leave with that

2019-10-08 22:43:48 UTC  

It was a localized phenomenon in an era of similar claims of Messiah status

2019-10-08 22:44:20 UTC  

That was definitely the way the roman empire treated it

2019-10-08 22:44:34 UTC  

Yah but you said that back than they were more receptives. So it does check

2019-10-08 22:44:47 UTC  

So what about people who didn't live in that region?

2019-10-08 22:44:54 UTC  

Rome was a very small slice of the world