Yeah. It has to be voluntary, if the govt controls the means of production, no one actually owns anything and therefore can't willingly give what they don't have.

Jesus's teachings cannot work under socialism.

If you arent doing something voluntarily, then what does it actually mean?

That you're doing it involuntarily :^)

That whoever is forcing you to do something should be responsible for that something

God only need one reason why what He does is not unfair. He doesn't need that every explanation of everyone that claims to be Christian to be right

Although, so that @Legalize doesn't think I'm making a moral argument, that would be true only for people that hold certain moral standards. /S 😄

Oh wow you're still arguing this lol

Also looking back over your "steel man", @ThePortugueseGuy , it raises probably more questions than it answers. Like, for instance, why did God go from one who can create, destroy etc on a whim, to someone who continues to be able to do that, but must wait for humanity to set things just right?

Oh this debate will go on until someone changes the subject. I guarantee it
However it's probably the best debate topic we'll get here

Okay okay

Real question

Which version of the Bible

I favor ESV

NJKV

I've been told that I should swap to NKJ from KJ

@micamike45 I hope you’re jking

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There are errors in the translation of KJV is what I've heard I don't know specifically what

Geneva to flex, esv if serious

There's only been one I've debated with someone on, that seems to be awkward translation

@Beemann Let say christ will only die once and he does need that one time to have the biggest impact on the earth. So while He is on here does miracles so his word is amplified. The same reason why there and why than.

My favorite is the queen James version.

(I'm kidding)

Jfa revista e actualizada

@pussydestroyer I'm doing it just for your entertainment at this point ;P

NKJV sounds Bible-y but doesn't get over the top with the thees and thous and eatiths

That and I don't know how or when yo quit cause it's so much fun.

I don't know ESV that well

Well. If you created a robot which you wanted to have an intellect, which means it could reason and understand, would you want for it to just obey you without consideration, or would you want it to willingly contend with existence and voluntarily choose to talk to you because it actually liked you?

NIV sounds like a YA novel

Does that one have maccabees @Legalize ?

Wouldn't it make a pretty big impact to have Christ use some capability beyond what people are capable of, like say some form of global broadcasting?

Iike the thees and thous. That's the good shit. Quit being casuals

@Gunner Fox depends on what the robot is for.

@Beemann I agree

NIV used to be great then they cucked

Lately ive liked the new american standard and the holman

"Jesus streamed his death 2k years before it was a thing" seems like a pretty big deal

@Gunner Fox am I building the robot to test it's intelligence, or am I doing it to create a servant?

100% obeying without consideration creating robots who think for themselves is how we end our species

bet