Message from @Spartan322

Discord ID: 644320626391253022


2019-11-13 23:21:35 UTC  

Will there be a Q&A session post-debate?

2019-11-13 23:25:49 UTC  

yes

2019-11-13 23:29:46 UTC  

Should the subsequent duel be with swords or pistols?

2019-11-13 23:29:54 UTC  

@PiusXIII @Myth just fyi the stream on Dlive is echoing pretty bad

2019-11-13 23:29:54 UTC  

in the collesum

2019-11-13 23:30:05 UTC  

and the voice is not synced with the stream

2019-11-13 23:30:45 UTC  

@Beemann flesh swords and meat pistols**

2019-11-13 23:31:06 UTC  

it's gamer time 😎

2019-11-13 23:33:23 UTC  

woof

2019-11-13 23:34:58 UTC  

D:

2019-11-13 23:37:51 UTC  

Thomas Aquinas give us strength

2019-11-13 23:38:01 UTC  

and I'm pretty certain I know how this debate is gonna go even before the finishing of Pius' summary

2019-11-13 23:38:13 UTC  

@Spartan322 pray tell

2019-11-13 23:38:46 UTC  

Fuck there's a lot of us listening lol

2019-11-13 23:39:02 UTC  

schrodniger's cat is a thought experiment about a specific interpretation of quantum theory

2019-11-13 23:39:09 UTC  

the majority of the subject is beyond scope and its gonna lead on the subject

2019-11-13 23:39:20 UTC  

19 people in all

2019-11-13 23:39:24 UTC  

God is a theory

2019-11-13 23:39:34 UTC  

*surprised Pikachu*

2019-11-13 23:39:54 UTC  

its also (currently) entirely based on specific interpretations of a variable theory

2019-11-13 23:40:08 UTC  

which isn't definitively known or defined

2019-11-13 23:41:09 UTC  

God was / is a tool that was used to control vast groups of people. Do this, don't do that or god will smite you. You don't wanna be dust do you, fall in line

2019-11-13 23:41:20 UTC  

broke take

2019-11-13 23:41:39 UTC  

idk why I'm listening to two people who don't know what they're talking about debating with each other

2019-11-13 23:42:18 UTC  

I'm a little dejected, I was hoping this would be more specific and definitive

2019-11-13 23:42:36 UTC  

yeah later folks have a nice rest of your evening :)

2019-11-13 23:44:21 UTC  

I still am willing to try and propose a ponder on the subject later on or post-debate/post-QA, but anything I'll end up saying would probably break the discussion

2019-11-13 23:44:56 UTC  

Tbh metaphysics was probably a bad jumping point for a first debate. It honestly works better as a discussion anyway

2019-11-13 23:45:17 UTC  

partly, but the bigger issue is broken theologic foundation

2019-11-13 23:46:07 UTC  

you can't argue this unless you have a definite form for the subject which just to point out is by definition of omnipetence impossible

2019-11-13 23:47:00 UTC  

Metaphysics always meanders on

2019-11-13 23:47:00 UTC  

thus humanistic reason can not achieve a definitive nor reasonable explaination regarding some god or the God

2019-11-13 23:47:16 UTC  

Just get proof god exists, all these other arguments are meaningless

2019-11-13 23:47:32 UTC  

man would not believe no matter the proof

2019-11-13 23:47:38 UTC  

if A then B then C

2019-11-13 23:47:55 UTC  

Nah, it still doesnt quite follow

2019-11-13 23:48:15 UTC  

You could prove a higher power exists and it could be not-God

2019-11-13 23:48:24 UTC  

Or it could be one of many higher powers

2019-11-13 23:48:41 UTC  

but you'll always get stuck on what created those beings

2019-11-13 23:48:48 UTC  

which becomes circular

2019-11-13 23:48:52 UTC  

The Great Will my dude