I can see that on a small scale....say interpersonal relationships.....but on a national scale? ehhhhhhh

Lets go with a big scale, crazy idea. If a meteor were to be on its way to hit the earth, one that could kill most if not all of us, and only the government knew about, or made anyone else who watches the stars knew about it but made them keep quite (this isn't likely, but just tossing out the idea).
If there was nothing we could do about it, would it be morally good or bad to tell everyone. I think i might argue to keep it a secret and lie.

well there is a difference between not saying anything and lying. Take your example. Keep it quiet sure. If asked about the meteor then tell the truth. People are going to find out. I just see the fine line between that and the NSA spying when they lied to congress. Factually incorrect but thought he was morally right.

In my example, its not possible for anyone to find out (outside of the few that already know). But ya, i think we understand, some things are difficult to grade on a scale of whats More moral.

How do you know that the meteor impact is not preventable if you don‘t get input from everyone who might have an idea on how to stop it? If you don‘t say something you might not hear from the one guy that actually would have a plan that works because of his experience in something absurd that you would not even consider to be relevant like... plumbing... or something.

I‘m all all for zero carbon emissions as long as i‘m not the guy that has to kill all the cows.

@I AM ERROR Chelyabinsk meteor?

Who saw it before enter the atmosphere?

How you prevent it?

Lying is never moral. It may sometimes be EXCUSABLE or UNDERSTANDABLE, but never moral.

The purpose of moral philosophy or theology is to give us standard operating procedures for when shit hits the fan.

90% of my time in the military and 99.9% of my tens of thousands of (well spent) martial arts training were about that.

Seeing as the former prevented any of my own troops from dieing and the latter has saved my life on at least five occasions, I consider this preparation well spent

YMMV of course. Many people have a high-k approach to life

@DroneHost the premise was the the government knows but lies about it. If they are not aware of it it does not matter if you see it before it enters the athmosphere

The premise was also about it not being possible to do anything about it, not like some action movie where we find the one guy with and idea to save us all. But i also said, i was just tossing out a fast crazy premise, if i took time i could make it far more concrete. @I AM ERROR

You never know that it is not possible to do anything about it if you don‘t ask everyone if they have an idea.

Tunnel vision is a thing after all.

But in general: there are very few, if any, instances where you can be morally right while being factually incorrect.

None of those instances include advocating for socialism.

Quick question is it kneck or neck

Neck

Ken

Kek

Thank you

I had to prove a teenager wrong

Whats kneck?

Lol. Glad we could help with that difficult task! Teenagers know everything!

Man, like Blonde, Ann Coulter can sure be annoying at times.

Coulter is intentionally annoying. It's part of her schtick

Ya, i know. But it works better when she is right, its harder to stand when she is wrong (or just misguided).
But thankfully, i don't follow her much.

I find Blonde way more palatable than Anne Coulter.

Anne is just too out there.....No weed? What her problem? She has never smoked

wow oil sanctions on Venezuela.....The first true sanctions which actually will hurt the people.

As far as I know, her opposition to drug legalization is economic in nature.

Which is to say, don't legalize drugs while people are able to live on welfare while they shoot up all day.

she doesn't want people to be pot head....I know pot heads now...

Weed legalization may fix some crime issues, but will ultimately increase some health problems in society.

you legalize it there be selling weed business owner pot heads

Ok. But that doesn’t change the fact that certain health problems will increase.

certainly.....but people should be free to make dumb decisions....you want to smoke...ok...but pay more for your health care